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THE FORGOTTEN IMPORTANCE OF CIVIL LIBERTIES&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By JACOB G. HORNBERGER&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the real tragedies in the struggle for freedom in the&lt;br /&gt;
United States in the latter part of the 20th century has been&lt;br /&gt;
the forgotten importance of civil liberties. While economic&lt;br /&gt;
liberty provides the focal point of most of the efforts of&lt;br /&gt;
freedom devotees, and rightfully so, it is vitally important&lt;br /&gt;
that we never forget that all aspects of freedom are&lt;br /&gt;
intertwined--if we lose one, we stand in danger of losing all&lt;br /&gt;
of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Advocates of economic liberty and limited government recognize&lt;br /&gt;
that the purpose of government is to protect peaceful and law-&lt;br /&gt;
abiding people from violence and fraud. If a person inflicts&lt;br /&gt;
direct harm such as murder, rape, or theft on another person,&lt;br /&gt;
he should be punished by the State for violating the rights of&lt;br /&gt;
others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But many freedom devotees believe that the analysis stops&lt;br /&gt;
there--that criminals should be punished and that&amp;#039;s all there&lt;br /&gt;
is to it. Many of them, especially those on &amp;quot;the&lt;br /&gt;
Right,&amp;quot; view the procedural safeguards in the Constitution as&lt;br /&gt;
mere &amp;quot;technicalities&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;obstructions&amp;quot; whose design and&lt;br /&gt;
effect are to help criminals go free. They see these&lt;br /&gt;
safeguards as 18th century &amp;quot;horse and buggy&amp;quot; anachronisms&lt;br /&gt;
which are inappropriate to the more complex life of the 20th&lt;br /&gt;
century.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They are sadly mistaken. And they do not do justice to the&lt;br /&gt;
intelligence and insight of their American ancestors who&lt;br /&gt;
fought so hard to ensure that these restrictions on government&lt;br /&gt;
power were expressly enunciated in the Constitution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tragically, the forgotten, or perhaps abandoned, importance of&lt;br /&gt;
civil liberties characterizes many freedom organizations in&lt;br /&gt;
the United States which are devoted to achieving economic&lt;br /&gt;
freedom. Recognizing the vital importance of economic liberty,&lt;br /&gt;
and giving lip service to the Constitution and the Bill of&lt;br /&gt;
Rights, they scoff at the importance of civil liberties as a&lt;br /&gt;
part of freedom in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, a tremendous intellectual assault on civil&lt;br /&gt;
liberties took place last year in a series of articles&lt;br /&gt;
entitled &amp;quot;Crime and Punishment&amp;quot; by Robert James Bidinotto.&lt;br /&gt;
The assault was made more meaningful because the articles&lt;br /&gt;
appeared in The Freeman, a journal published by The Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
for Economic Education of Irvington, New York, an organization&lt;br /&gt;
long known for its principled commitment to economic freedom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Concerned with ever-increasing crime rates in America, Mr.&lt;br /&gt;
Bidinotto argued that the solution, at least in part, turned&lt;br /&gt;
on the curtailment of the safeguards enunciated in the Fourth,&lt;br /&gt;
Fifth, Sixth, and Eighth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Bidinotto suggested that if Americans just loosened some&lt;br /&gt;
of the strictures in the Bill of Rights which enabled so many&lt;br /&gt;
criminals to go free, the crime problem could be significantly&lt;br /&gt;
alleviated. Unspared from Mr. Bidinotto&amp;#039;s attack were civil&lt;br /&gt;
liberties lawyers as well as such rights as trial by jury,&lt;br /&gt;
right to bail, right to counsel, protection from unreasonable&lt;br /&gt;
searches and seizures, and protection from self-incrimination.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Contrary to popular opinion and what Americans are so often&lt;br /&gt;
taught by their government officials, the procedural&lt;br /&gt;
safeguards in the Constitution are not mere technicalities to&lt;br /&gt;
protect the guilty. They are instead well-established&lt;br /&gt;
safeguards to protect the innocent--those who have been&lt;br /&gt;
falsely accused of a crime by their own government officials.&lt;br /&gt;
If Americans in the latter part of this century forget this&lt;br /&gt;
vital principle, they do so at their peril.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I used to be a civil and criminal trial attorney. I was often&lt;br /&gt;
asked, &amp;quot;Don&amp;#039;t you lose sleep when you get guilty people off&lt;br /&gt;
the hook?&amp;quot; My answer was, &amp;quot;Never.&amp;quot; In fact, of all the&lt;br /&gt;
criminal cases I handled--drug, murder, theft, assault,&lt;br /&gt;
embezzlement, fraud--I lost sleep for several weeks in only&lt;br /&gt;
one case. That was the case in which I believed, and still&lt;br /&gt;
believe, that I had lost an innocent man to ten years in the&lt;br /&gt;
federal penitentiary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What many criminal defense lawyers recognize is what our&lt;br /&gt;
American ancestors recognized, but unfortunately what so few&lt;br /&gt;
Americans today do: that the government sometimes falsely&lt;br /&gt;
accuses a person of a crime. When that happens, such&lt;br /&gt;
fundamental rights as the presumption of innocence, legal&lt;br /&gt;
counsel, trial by jury, and cross examination lose all&lt;br /&gt;
semblance of &amp;quot;technicalities&amp;quot; and become the obstacles, the&lt;br /&gt;
obstructions, the entanglements which interfere with the&lt;br /&gt;
government&amp;#039;s ability to convict a person who has done nothing&lt;br /&gt;
wrong. The reason I never lost sleep at getting a &amp;quot;guilty&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
person off the hook (which actually happened only rarely) is&lt;br /&gt;
that I knew that if it was this difficult to convict a&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;guilty&amp;quot; person, that meant that it was that much more&lt;br /&gt;
difficult to convict an innocent person.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I once represented a security guard for a national railroad&lt;br /&gt;
line. He was one of the most competent law enforcement&lt;br /&gt;
officers I had ever encountered. His credentials included a&lt;br /&gt;
commission from the State of Texas as a Special Ranger.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The railroad had been suffering a series of burglaries of its&lt;br /&gt;
railroad cars. One day my client caught a juvenile breaking&lt;br /&gt;
into a railroad car which contained the household goods of&lt;br /&gt;
some American family. The boy resisted arrest and, after a&lt;br /&gt;
struggle, was taken into custody by my client.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For various reasons, some of which we were convinced were&lt;br /&gt;
extra-legal, the prosecutor decided to charge my client with&lt;br /&gt;
assault rather than the juvenile for burglary and attempted&lt;br /&gt;
theft. It is this type of situation which creates the&lt;br /&gt;
sleepless nights for the defense attorney--the specter of an&lt;br /&gt;
innocent client, and a law enforcement officer at that, being&lt;br /&gt;
sent to prison for a crime he did not commit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fortunately, my client was acquitted. It is impossible to&lt;br /&gt;
understate my gratitude (and that of my client) in having the&lt;br /&gt;
benefits of the presumption of innocence, trial by jury (we&lt;br /&gt;
didn&amp;#039;t trust the judge either), and the right to cross-examine&lt;br /&gt;
the juvenile.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In another case, I was summoned to a local hotel by a client&lt;br /&gt;
who was being accused of murder. His girlfriend had died after&lt;br /&gt;
falling from their tenth floor hotel room. When I arrived at&lt;br /&gt;
the hotel, the police were already questioning my client;&lt;br /&gt;
yet, having just lost his girlfriend, he was obviously in no&lt;br /&gt;
state of mind to be answering questions. I immediately advised&lt;br /&gt;
him to stop responding and asked the police to stop&lt;br /&gt;
interrogating him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reaction of the police?  Intent on not allowing the&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;technicality&amp;quot; of the Fifth Amendment to impede the &amp;quot;proper&lt;br /&gt;
administration of justice,&amp;quot; they arrested me for &amp;quot;disorderly&lt;br /&gt;
conduct,&amp;quot; removed me for booking, and continued the&lt;br /&gt;
interrogation of my client. I at least had the solace of&lt;br /&gt;
believing that no court would admit my client&amp;#039;s answers, no&lt;br /&gt;
matter how &amp;quot;voluntary,&amp;quot; in any criminal proceeding.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The inquest ultimately established, and the district attorney&lt;br /&gt;
conceded, that the girl&amp;#039;s death was a suicide, not a murder.&lt;br /&gt;
The grand jury did not see fit to even issue an indictment,&lt;br /&gt;
which of course, is simply a legal accusation. The truth was&lt;br /&gt;
that the man was innocent. (The truth was that so was I. I&lt;br /&gt;
hired one of the foremost criminal defense lawyers in the&lt;br /&gt;
United States who represented me for free--he had recently&lt;br /&gt;
suffered the same type of experience in a Miami court;&lt;br /&gt;
ultimately, after I refused a plea bargain, the prosecutor&lt;br /&gt;
dismissed the charges against me and apologized.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To this day, when I hear an American judge instructing a jury&lt;br /&gt;
to presume the defendant innocent and not to convict him&lt;br /&gt;
unless convinced of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, I take&lt;br /&gt;
great pride in being an American; in living under a criminal&lt;br /&gt;
justice system that towers above those in other countries&lt;br /&gt;
whose criminal justice system unfortunately is the ideal of&lt;br /&gt;
many American &amp;quot;anti-crime fighters&amp;quot;--a system of presumption&lt;br /&gt;
of guilt, pretrial incarceration without bail, non-jury&lt;br /&gt;
trials, involuntary confessions, and unrestricted searches and&lt;br /&gt;
seizures, all with the single-minded purpose of punishing the&lt;br /&gt;
guilty no matter what the cost to the innocent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Founding Fathers, and the American people of the 1700s,&lt;br /&gt;
were not naive. They knew that the procedural safeguards in&lt;br /&gt;
the Bill of Rights would result in the release of many guilty&lt;br /&gt;
people. But they were willing to accept that price in order to&lt;br /&gt;
ensure that innocent people were never, or rarely, convicted.&lt;br /&gt;
They fully recognized that which freedom devotees on the Right&lt;br /&gt;
recognized--that those who violate the rights of others need&lt;br /&gt;
to be punished. But what they also recognized is what those on&lt;br /&gt;
the Right so often do not: that sometimes people are wrongly&lt;br /&gt;
accused of violating the rights of others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Bidinotto is right to be concerned about crime and other&lt;br /&gt;
crises which periodically beset us. However, historically it&lt;br /&gt;
is crises that have furnished the excuse for some of&lt;br /&gt;
government&amp;#039;s most monumental assaults on human freedom. It is&lt;br /&gt;
during these times that we must be most on our guard to&lt;br /&gt;
protect our civil liberties, not surrender them. Otherwise,&lt;br /&gt;
freedom devotees, and especially those on the Right, will find&lt;br /&gt;
that economic liberty, which they have fought so hard to&lt;br /&gt;
achieve, has been sacrificed back to government under the&lt;br /&gt;
guise of the criminal law.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Hornberger is the founder and president of The Future of&lt;br /&gt;
Freedom Foundation, P.O. Box 9752, Denver, CO 80209.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
From the July 1990 issue of FREEDOM DAILY,&lt;br /&gt;
Copyright (c) 1990, The Future of Freedom Foundation,&lt;br /&gt;
PO Box 9752, Denver, Colorado 80209, 303-777-3588.&lt;br /&gt;
Permission granted to reprint; please give appropriate credit&lt;br /&gt;
and send one copy of reprinted material to the Foundation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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