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 The following article is reprinted by permission from the&lt;br /&gt;
 Los Angeles Times of June 8, 1992.  Reproduction on &lt;br /&gt;
 computer bulletin boards is permitted for informational&lt;br /&gt;
 purposes only.  Copyright (c) 1992 by the Los Angeles&lt;br /&gt;
 Times.   All other rights reserved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [Note: the following text is drawn from the original&lt;br /&gt;
 manuscript; there are insignificant changes in the&lt;br /&gt;
 published version. -- JNS]&lt;br /&gt;
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            JOINING FORCES AGAINST A COMMON FOE &lt;br /&gt;
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                     by J. Neil Schulman&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     There are about 200 million guns in America in the&lt;br /&gt;
 hands of about 60 million Americans.  The sale of guns&lt;br /&gt;
 nationwide following the Los Angeles riots has reached&lt;br /&gt;
 record levels, many of them to first-time buyers.  Firearms&lt;br /&gt;
 training classes are filled to capacity.  The National&lt;br /&gt;
 Rifle Association currently has 2.8 million members -- ten&lt;br /&gt;
 times the membership of the American Civil Liberties Union&lt;br /&gt;
 -- and expects to exceed 3 million by the end of 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     Both advocates of gun control and advocates of gun&lt;br /&gt;
 rights agree that there is an epidemic problem with the&lt;br /&gt;
 criminal use of guns in America.  But every time a gun-&lt;br /&gt;
 control advocate points to the latest atrocity committed&lt;br /&gt;
 with a firearm, the gun-rights advocate will surely ask:&lt;br /&gt;
 why was there no armed citizen who could have tried to stop&lt;br /&gt;
 the criminal?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     The difference between the advocate of gun control and&lt;br /&gt;
 the advocate of gun rights lies in a perception of the&lt;br /&gt;
 cause of the criminal use of a gun.  Those who advocate gun&lt;br /&gt;
 control think the cause is wide and easy availability of&lt;br /&gt;
 guns.  The advocates of gun rights think the cause is a&lt;br /&gt;
 legal system which leaves criminals free to prey on a&lt;br /&gt;
 public which is socially discouraged, and often legally&lt;br /&gt;
 forbidden, from using guns for personal defense.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     The war over gun control is fought with news reports.&lt;br /&gt;
 Advocates of gun control have no shortage of reports that&lt;br /&gt;
 prove guns in the hands of criminals are a plague on our&lt;br /&gt;
 society. Advocates of gun rights find, however, that the&lt;br /&gt;
 use of firearms to prevent or stop a crime is often left&lt;br /&gt;
 unreported by media which are worried that reporting gun&lt;br /&gt;
 defenses will encourage irresponsible vigilantism.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     The war over gun control is fought with statistics. &lt;br /&gt;
 The number of gun attacks in the United States is easy to&lt;br /&gt;
 compile: just count up the thousands of bodies in the&lt;br /&gt;
 morgues, and the hundreds of thousands of gunshot victims&lt;br /&gt;
 treated in hospitals. The number of times a gun is used for&lt;br /&gt;
 defense, however, has a built-in problem: the use of a&lt;br /&gt;
 firearm to deter, prevent, or stop an attack is unrecorded,&lt;br /&gt;
 overwhelmingly because the defense was accomplished without&lt;br /&gt;
 pulling the trigger, and less often, because the person&lt;br /&gt;
 using the gun for self-defense was legally forbidden to be&lt;br /&gt;
 in possession of it at that time or place, and thus did not&lt;br /&gt;
 report it.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     The war over gun control is fought with historical&lt;br /&gt;
 debates about the intent of the Second Amendment.  Those&lt;br /&gt;
 who advocate gun control say the Second Amendment has no&lt;br /&gt;
 Supreme Court ruling which defines the Second Amendment as&lt;br /&gt;
 protecting an individual right of the citizenry to keep and&lt;br /&gt;
 bear arms for personal defense.  Those who advocate gun&lt;br /&gt;
 rights say that the intent of the authors of the Second&lt;br /&gt;
 Amendment, and the Fourteenth Amendment which would apply&lt;br /&gt;
 it to the states, is indisputable, and it is a politicized&lt;br /&gt;
 Supreme Court which does not have the courage to enforce&lt;br /&gt;
 it.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     It&amp;#039;s likely that the only other issue with such&lt;br /&gt;
 polarized and deeply felt world views is abortion.  Oddly,&lt;br /&gt;
 those who advocate the right of choice on abortion are&lt;br /&gt;
 often the same people advocating eliminating the right to&lt;br /&gt;
 choose firearms as a defensive option.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     It&amp;#039;s also likely that a final Supreme Court ruling on&lt;br /&gt;
 the Second Amendment would fail to end the issue.  A ruling&lt;br /&gt;
 in favor of an individual rights interpretation of the&lt;br /&gt;
 Second Amendment would probably coalesce gun-control&lt;br /&gt;
 advocates into a movement to repeal the amendment.  A&lt;br /&gt;
 ruling against an individual rights interpretation of the&lt;br /&gt;
 Second Amendment would alienate and radicalize the millions&lt;br /&gt;
 of Americans who believe in that right as firmly as the&lt;br /&gt;
 advocates of abortion rights believe in theirs.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     As long as the advocates of gun control write laws and&lt;br /&gt;
 court rulings that abridge the right of private citizens to&lt;br /&gt;
 buy, own, and carry the firearms they feel are theirs by&lt;br /&gt;
 right to have for defensive and sporting use, gun owners&lt;br /&gt;
 will continue to be alienated and radicalized, and become&lt;br /&gt;
 more and more willing to engage in civil disobedience&lt;br /&gt;
 against such abridgements.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     Advocates of gun control need to realize that passing&lt;br /&gt;
 laws that honest gun owners will not obey is a self-&lt;br /&gt;
 defeating strategy.  Gun owners are not about to surrender&lt;br /&gt;
 their rights or their guns, and only the most foolish of&lt;br /&gt;
 politicians would risk the stability of the government by&lt;br /&gt;
 trying to use the force of the State to disarm the people.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
     If gun-control advocates do not acknowledge the right&lt;br /&gt;
 of the people to keep and bear arms for individual and&lt;br /&gt;
 civic defense before they attempt to remove guns from the&lt;br /&gt;
 hands of those who abuse them, then sensible gun laws will&lt;br /&gt;
 be out of reach, and the criminal plague of gun victimizing&lt;br /&gt;
 will continue.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
      Can&amp;#039;t advocates of gun control see the advantage&lt;br /&gt;
 of recruiting gun-rights advocates to a joint cause of&lt;br /&gt;
 eliminating gun tragedies?  We can all agree that guns&lt;br /&gt;
 need to be kept out of the hands of the violent criminal&lt;br /&gt;
 and the lunatic.  We can agree that the solution to gun&lt;br /&gt;
 accidents is safety training.  We can agree that those who&lt;br /&gt;
 own and carry firearms for protection must take&lt;br /&gt;
 responsibility for knowing how to use them safely and&lt;br /&gt;
 appropriately.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
      Surely, instead of fighting one another, we can join&lt;br /&gt;
 forces to fight our common enemy: the armed criminal?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
                              #&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 J. Neil Schulman is a writer, hosts a radio program on the&lt;br /&gt;
 American Radio Network, and is founder and chair of the&lt;br /&gt;
 Committee to Enforce the Second Amendment.&lt;br /&gt;
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