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(3496) Fri 22 May 92 12:22p
By: Richard D Warner
To: All
Re: New To The Group - Speculative Model (don't Flame Me, I'll Deny Everyt
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From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner)
Date: 22 May 92 02:38:43 GMT
Organization: University of Montana
Message-ID: <1992May22.023843.12567@selway.umt.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors

Hi I'm new to this group, but there are some comments I want to kick
out. I have a few personal experiences to pass along, a speculative model or
two,
and it's just good to find some people to talk with.
The show "Intruders" was a blast, and legitimized some of my
perceptions
, at least in my mind. Over the years - I'm 32 - there have been several
interesting experiences, that have always puzzled me, and sometimes I work
on various models that fit the perceptions.
You're all busy, so I'll give the terse version of each experience and
if you want more info, email me.
1) As a child I grew up in a bad family situation, w/alky violent
father and alky mother. Mom's recovered, dad is dead. There was a period
up until I was about 8 ( and we moved away from my father) that I was
somewhat autistic. In fact, my first year teacher wanted me put in a
school for the mentally retarded. I don't have a lot of memories of that
time, but one is a very peculiar "dream" while we lived in the tiny
Colorado town Rangely (oil fields all over). I remember one night being alone
and it was nighttime and for some reason I went and looked out the bedroom
window which looks into our neighbor's kitchen. The light was on, and the man
was sitting on a stool, and an obviously alien being was standing in front of
him. The being was small and appeared to be bald and greyish. It pointed
something at the man, and the man's back straightened up stiffly. I felt a
wave of horror, and then the being turned and looked directly at me.
Instinctively, with terror, I ran and forced my way under my bed. That's all
I remember. I probably was 5 or 6 at the time. The feelings and such were
very complex and intense, and the reactions very realistic for such a dream.
I don't even think we had a t.v. at that time, and there weren't really any
sources to feed my little brain with concepts like these. Actually, as I
write this, I remember being terrified under the bed and hearing someone walk
in this house. I didn't tell a sole about this "dream" until only a year
ago or so.
My mother had an interesting experience about this time - give or
take a year. She told me about this a few years back. Actually there are
two experiences. One, was when she went to look for my older brother who
was in High School and out partying. She checked at a party spot at some
nearby shallow caves by the river. Then she remembers being in shock and
coming home and sitting on the heater, shaking. She woke up in the morning
and noticed that under her nylon socks she had a huge blister by her big toe.
It was almost an inch high, as if from a severe burn. She thought maybe she
had been drunk and burned herself with a cigarette, but the nylons were still
on her feet, and they were not harmed at all. The second time, she was driving
at night along a road that goes through some oil fields, and a huge bluish,
cigar-shaped machine flew alongside the car for a couple miles, then flew off
over the badlands hills, dipping down then going up and over, and out of site.
There was a trucker in front of her that also saw it, but they did not stop
and talk. It occurs to me that if the first of mom's experiences happened
at the same time as mine, this would explain why I was home alone. Mom was
out looking for my stupid brother. What if she came home and there was some
kind of being in the house? I'm not keeping these as short as I expected.
Sorry.

2) As a teenager, my mother and I were driving from Cody, Wyoming
to Craig, Colorado. It is 410 miles and usually took us 8 hours to drive.
My older sister lived there, so we visited occasionally. I'd been driving
for a couple years (17) and was really driving the Buick fast. I was pushing
it 75 or 80 as much as I could. We stopped at a rest stop briefly, and stopped
for a half hour to eat something. I was exhausted and feeling numb, unthinking
, when we got to Baggs, about 40 miles from Craig, so mom drove the last 40
miles, at 60mph. Over the years I've ran through this numerous times, and
estimate our average speed realistically as 72 until Bags. Even stepping
way back to a conservative 65mph, math fails us. At 65mph it would have
taken less than 7 1/2 hours. Guess how long this trip took us? We left
at 10:00 in the morning and finally arrived home, exhausted and speechless
at 8:00pm. We both have been baffled about the missing time.

3) When I was 26 or 27 I was a market rep for a software
company. I was traveling in Idaho, and could camp in the company car
and save some per diem money because they paid me for hotel expenses
whether I used one or not. I was camping in a remote site in northern
Idaho, and became very frightened and agitated for no apparent reason. In
fact, I was so frightened that I left the site and drove to a campground
where there was ten to fifteen campers. In the middle of the night I awoke
to hear something outside the car. It sounded like an elk stepping slowly
on rounded river rocks and hearing the rocks grind together under pressure.
I popped up and turned on the headlights, and the sound stopped. I felt
drugged, and my perceptions were odd. The headlight beams only went out
a couple feet, and seemed very dim and yellowish, like they were being
absorbed by a black fog. I didn't feel frightened, but rather numb and
uncaring, turned the lights off and laid back down. The sound came again,
and I turned the light on again, and it stopped. I went through this routine
a third time, then silence for awhile. Then I heard something like what an
antler would make if it were dragged slowly and steadily down the length of
the car.
This did not faze me, and I just listened as if in a dream. Then I
heard an odd "busy" sound under the car. It sounded like animals the size of
rats running rapidly back and forth in a column under the car, over fine
pea gravel. It was a very busy but organized sound. This went on for perhaps
two minutes then stopped and all was quiet.
I layed there for a while and listened, then was SHOCKED to hear
something running around inside the CAR! I jumped up and turned on the
dome light, silence, nothing. I turned it off, listened, and could hear it
again. The dome light, nothing. I turned it off, then heard it walking across
some cellophane! The dome light, nothing. I laid back down, then felt the
vibration as it ran across the back of the seat (that was put down to make
a sleeping area in the wagon). I turned on the light and waited. Finally,
I saw a little mouse run by. Whew! It took us over a week to finally
evict the mouse from the car. I checked the next day and could not imagine
how the mouse got in the car. It was a modern car and very sealed all the
way around. I did note that there was only pea gravel around where I parked,
and no large round river rocks anywhere. What happened? What happened before
I awoke? Maybe the fog was some sort of gas? Who knows. Does this correlate
to anyone else's experiences?

4) Lastly, let me describe two siting of my own (briefly) and some
other time, if I don't get flamed too much from this tome, I'll discuss my
speculative model. Put up with my typos as my terminal emulator isn't
working too well. The year before event 3, in the winter, I was out walking
one night and looked up in the sky to see five lights that looked like stars,
but they were moving in formation slowly compared to satellites. They were
silent, and I believe were white or yellowish. The other siting happened
in broad daylight in the summer of 1988 I think, in Craig. I was walking home
from my neighbors house and for no apparent reason looked straight up in the
air. I saw a sphere, paper white and very small. Just big enough for me to
see some shading to suggest a sphere. As a kid I played a lot with model
rockets and hot air balloons (eight-foot alcohol powered ones) and know the
trig, plus how to approximate angles using my hand at arms length for ten
degrees. I immediately started counting seconds, and counted to ten before
it disappeared at approximately 45 degrees from the horizon. I don't know
its height because I don't know its size (for an estimate) or don't have a
second observation site at a known distance from me. If it was a weather
balloon, it would have been about a mile up, meaning it travelled horizontally
about a mile in ten seconds. If it was a hundred feet across, maybe it was
thirty-five or so miles up for a speed of about 12,600MPH or about Mach 17.5.
It was silent, and made an unnatural beeline north. From my hot air balloon
experience I know that for the first mile up the wind never travels north,
but is usually to the north-east to southeast. Well, I'm spent. Hope I
haven't worn out my welcome already!

Rich

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