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	First, it has been established that "Falcon", one of the principle sources of the [[MJ-12]] material, is Richard C. Doty, formerly attached to District 17 Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) at Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] retired from the U.S. Air Force on October 1, 1988.		First, it has been established that "Falcon", one of the principle sources of the [[MJ-12]] material, is [[Richard Doty\|Richard C. Doty]], formerly attached to District 17 Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) at Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] retired from the U.S. Air Force on October 1, 1988.

	How do I know that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon"? During a recent telephone conversation, Linda Moulton Howe told me that when Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] invited her to his office at Kirtland AFB in early April 1983, and showed her a purportedly authentic U.S. Government document on UFOs, he identified himself as code-name "Falcon" and stated that it was Bill Moore who had given him that name.		How do I know that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon"? During a recent telephone conversation, Linda Moulton Howe told me that when Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] invited her to his office at [[Kirtland AFB]] in early April 1983, and showed her a purportedly authentic U.S. Government document on UFOs, he identified himself as code-name "'''Falcon'''" and stated that it was [[Bill Moore]] who had given him that name.

	Also, in early December 1988, a ranking member of the production team responsible for the "UFO Cover Up? -- Live" television documentary confirmed that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon". This same individual also identified the second [[MJ-12]] source who appeared on the program, "Condor", as Robert Collins who was, until recently, a Captain in the U.S. Air Force. Like [[Richard Doty\|Doty]], he was stationed at KAFB when he left the service late last year.		Also, in early December 1988, a ranking member of the production team responsible for the "UFO Cover Up? -- Live" television documentary confirmed that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon". This same individual also identified the second [[MJ-12]] source who appeared on the program, "Condor", as [[Robert Collins (USAF)\|Robert Collins]] who was, until recently, a Captain in the U.S. Air Force. Like [[Richard Doty\|Doty]], he was stationed at KAFB when he left the service late last year.

	Both [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] and Collins deny any involvement in the [[MJ-12]] affair. However, Linda Howe has issued a sworn affidavit, agreeing to testify under penalty of perjury, relating to the events during the course of her meeting with Richard "Falcon" Doty at KAFB in 1983 (Enclosures A and B). Thus far, [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] has not issued a sworn affidavit, or agreed to testify under penalty of perjury, to re-enforce his denial that the events of his meeting with Howe occured as she has described them.		Both [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] and Collins deny any involvement in the [[MJ-12]] affair. However, Linda Howe has issued a sworn affidavit, agreeing to testify under penalty of perjury, relating to the events during the course of her meeting with Richard "Falcon" Doty at KAFB in 1983 (Enclosures A and B). Thus far, [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] has not issued a sworn affidavit, or agreed to testify under penalty of perjury, to re-enforce his denial that the events of his meeting with Howe occured as she has described them.

	For the moment, I will not identify the "UFO Coverup? -- Live" source who identified [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] as "Falcon" and Collins as "Condor". I do, however, encourage others to independently attempt to secure confirmation of the statements that he has already made. At least two producers connected with the documentary know the facts.		For the moment, I will not identify the "UFO Coverup? -- Live" source who identified [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] as "Falcon" and [[Robert Collins (USAF)\|Collins]] as "Condor". I do, however, encourage others to independently attempt to secure confirmation of the statements that he has already made. At least two producers connected with the documentary know the facts.



	==QUESTIONS==		==QUESTIONS==

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 Because it has been established that [[Richard Doty]] is "Falcon", the chief source for the [[MJ-12]] material, it now seems imperative thoroughly investigate this incident to resolve these unanswered questions.  The second question, in particular, is of obvious importance.  Perhaps the Fund For UFO Research, which has recently solicited contributions to further investigate the [[MJ-12]] affair, would consider funding an expert typographical analysis of both the anonymous letter and [[Richard Doty|Doty]]'s Complaint Form to determine whether or not there is a link between the two.
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-      Even more disturbing than the implications of the "Weitzel Hoax"
+Even more disturbing than the implications of the "[[Weitzel Hoax]]" is an incident that raises the strongest doubts about [[Richard Doty]]'s credibility as a source of information and documents relating to the U.S. Government's involvement with UFOs. Information about this incident comes from [[Bruce Maccabee (Doctor)|Dr. Bruce Maccabee]] and links [[Richard Doty|Doty]] to the so-called [[Ellsworth AFB hoax]].  According to [Bruce Maccabee (Doctor)|Maccabee]], [[Bill Moore]] has acknowledged that [[Richard Doty]] confessed to forging the document that describes the alleged events connected with the Ellsworth case (Enclosure G).  [[Richard Doty|Doty]] apparently claims that the UFO incident there actually occurred, just as described in the document, and that he only wanted to bring it to the public attention.  He, therefore, proceeded to type the "document" himself, incorporating the "facts" that he claimed to know to be true, and then released the bogus report to various researchers. Enclosure H is an expose written by Bob Pratt, and published in the January 1984 issues of the '''MUFON Journal''', describing his investigation of this hoax.
        If it can be established, beyond any doubt, that [[Richard Doty]]

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	A professionally-conducted analysis of these flaws should be able to determine, with a reasonable degree of certainty, whether an "anonymous airman" used [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s typewriter to compose his overdrawn tale. If this fact can be established then two obvious questions arise:		A professionally-conducted analysis of these flaws should be able to determine, with a reasonable degree of certainty, whether an "anonymous airman" used [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s typewriter to compose his overdrawn tale. If this fact can be established then two obvious questions arise:

	1) How and why did the unidentified airman from the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing gain access to Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s writer at OSI?		# How and why did the unidentified airman from the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing gain access to Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s writer at OSI?
	2) On the other hand, did [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] himself type the letter and, therefore, attempt to perpetrate a hoax for some unknown reason?		# On the other hand, did [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] himself type the letter and, therefore, attempt to perpetrate a hoax for some unknown reason?

	Because it has been established that [[Richard Doty]] is "Falcon", the chief source for the [[MJ-12]] material, it now seems imperative thoroughly investigate this incident to resolve these unanswered questions. The second question, in particular, is of obvious importance. Perhaps the Fund For UFO Research, which has recently solicited contributions to further investigate the [[MJ-12]] affair, would consider funding an expert typographical analysis of both the anonymous letter and [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s Complaint Form to determine whether or not there is a link between the two.		Because it has been established that [[Richard Doty]] is "Falcon", the chief source for the [[MJ-12]] material, it now seems imperative thoroughly investigate this incident to resolve these unanswered questions. The second question, in particular, is of obvious importance. Perhaps the Fund For UFO Research, which has recently solicited contributions to further investigate the [[MJ-12]] affair, would consider funding an expert typographical analysis of both the anonymous letter and [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]'s Complaint Form to determine whether or not there is a link between the two.

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	That is, do their actions reflect a genuine attempt to release authentic above top secret information to the public or, on the other hand, suggest a disinformation campaign designed to confuse and mislead?		That is, do their actions reflect a genuine attempt to release authentic above top secret information to the public or, on the other hand, suggest a disinformation campaign designed to confuse and mislead?

	Let's begin with [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]. Sgt. Richard Charles Doty first received widespread attention after he wrote the now well known AFOSI Complaint Form relating to UFO sightings near Kirtland AFB in 1980 (Enclosure C). This document, typed and signed by Doty, takes on new significance in the light of an incident known as the "[[Weitzel Hoax]]".		Let's begin with [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]. [[Richard Doty\|Sgt. Richard Charles Doty]] first received widespread attention after he wrote the now well known AFOSI Complaint Form relating to UFO sightings near Kirtland AFB in 1980 (Enclosure C). This document, typed and signed by Doty, takes on new significance in the light of an incident known as the "[[Weitzel Hoax]]".

	Briefly summarized, this odd tale unfolded as follows: In 1981, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization received an anonymous letter from an individual who claimed to be a USAF airman assigned to the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing at Kirtland AFB (Enclosure D). The writer further claimed to have had a rather dramatic UFO sighting, together with a [[Craig Weitzel]] and others. The letter relates that Weitzel reported the sighting to a "Mr. Dody" (sic) at Kirtland AFB OSI.		Briefly summarized, this odd tale unfolded as follows: In 1981, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization received an anonymous letter from an individual who claimed to be a USAF airman assigned to the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing at Kirtland AFB (Enclosure D). The writer further claimed to have had a rather dramatic UFO sighting, together with a [[Craig Weitzel]] and others. The letter relates that Weitzel reported the sighting to a "Mr. Dody" (sic) at Kirtland AFB OSI.

	Researcher Benton Jamison located and contacted Weitzel in 1985 (Enclosure E). Weitzel stated that he did indeed report a UFO sighting to Sgt. [[Richard Doty]] in 1980, but that the actual		Researcher Benton Jamison located and contacted Weitzel in 1985 (Enclosure E). Weitzel stated that he did indeed report a UFO sighting to Sgt. [[Richard Doty]] in 1980, but that the actual incident in no way resembled the CEIII experience described in the anonymous letter. Weitzel also denies that he was subsequently contacted by a mysterious individual who demanded that he turn over any photographs that he might have taken of the UFO, as the letter claims.
	incident in no way resembled the CEIII experience described in the anonymous letter. Weitzel also denies that he was subsequently contacted by a mysterious individual who demanded that he turn over any photographs that he might have taken of the UFO, as the letter claims.

	So, it would appear that the writer of the anonymous letter, whomever he was, took a real event and greatly embellished it for some reason.		So, it would appear that the writer of the anonymous letter, whomever he was, took a real event and greatly embellished it for some reason.

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 Briefly summarized, this odd tale unfolded as follows: In 1981, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization received an anonymous letter from an individual who claimed to be a USAF airman assigned to the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing at Kirtland AFB (Enclosure D). The writer further claimed to have had a rather dramatic UFO sighting, together with a [[Craig Weitzel]] and others.  The letter relates that Weitzel reported the sighting to a "Mr. Dody" (sic) at Kirtland AFB OSI.
-     So, it would appear that the writer of the anonymous letter,
+Researcher Benton Jamison located and contacted Weitzel in 1985 (Enclosure E). Weitzel stated that he did indeed report a UFO sighting to Sgt. [[Richard Doty]] in 1980, but that the actual
-     whomever he was, took a real event and greatly embellished it
+ incident in no way resembled the CEIII experience described in the anonymous letter.  Weitzel also denies that he was subsequently contacted by a mysterious individual who demanded that he turn over any photographs that he might have taken of the UFO, as the letter claims.
-     for some reason.
-     And why is this letter so significant as regards questions about
+Enclosure F is a report by researcher Brad Sparks which address typeface irregularities and stylistic traits that are identical in both the anonymous airman's letter and [[Richard Doty|Sgt. Richard Doty]]'s report.
-     Enclosure F is a report by researcher Brad Sparks which address
+Actually, Spark's typeface analysis is incomplete. In addition to the irregular "u" that he identifies, it can be seen that the letters "gh", as in the word "sighting", are jammed together in identical fashion in both the letter and the report. Lower case "o" is also jammed against various letters that follow it in the "Weitzel" letter and [[Richard Doty|Doty]]'s Complaint Form.
-      A professionally-conducted analysis of these flaws should be
+A professionally-conducted analysis of these flaws should be able to determine, with a reasonable degree of certainty, whether an "anonymous airman" used [[Richard Doty|Doty]]'s typewriter to compose his overdrawn tale. If this fact can be established then two obvious questions arise:
-      Because it has been established that Richard Doty is "Falcon",
+) How and why did the unidentified airman from the 1550th Aircrew Training and Testing Wing gain access to Sgt. [[Richard Doty|Doty]]'s writer at OSI?
-      the chief source for the [[MJ-12]] material, it now seems imperative
+) On the other hand, did [[Richard Doty|Doty]] himself type the letter and, therefore, attempt to perpetrate a hoax for some unknown reason?
        Even more disturbing than the implications of the "Weitzel Hoax"
        is an incident that raises the strongest doubts about [[Richard

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 How do I know that [[Richard Doty|Doty]] is "Falcon"? During a recent telephone conversation, Linda Moulton Howe told me that when Sgt. [[Richard Doty|Doty]] invited her to his office at Kirtland AFB in early April 1983, and showed her a purportedly authentic U.S. Government document on UFOs, he identified himself as code-name "Falcon" and stated that it was Bill Moore who had given him that name.
-pre>
+Also, in early December 1988, a ranking member of the production team responsible for the "UFO Cover Up? -- Live" television documentary confirmed that [[Richard Doty|Doty]] is "Falcon". This same individual also identified the second [[MJ-12]] source who appeared on the program, "Condor", as Robert Collins who was, until recently, a Captain in the U.S. Air Force. Like [[Richard Doty|Doty]], he was stationed at KAFB when he left the service late last year.
-     Both [[Richard Doty|Doty]] and Collins deny any involvement in the [[MJ-12]] affair.
+Both [[Richard Doty|Doty]] and Collins deny any involvement in the [[MJ-12]] affair.  However, Linda Howe has issued a sworn affidavit, agreeing to testify under penalty of perjury, relating to the events during the course of her meeting with Richard "Falcon" Doty at KAFB in 1983 (Enclosures A and B). Thus far, [[Richard Doty|Doty]] has *not* issued a sworn affidavit, or agreed to testify under penalty of perjury, to re-enforce his denial that the events of his meeting with Howe occured as she has described them.
-     For the moment, I will not identify the "UFO Coverup? -- Live"
+For the moment, I will not identify the "UFO Coverup? -- Live" source who identified [[Richard Doty|Doty]] as "Falcon" and Collins as "Condor".  I do, however, encourage others to independently attempt to secure confirmation of the statements that he has already made.  At least two producers connected with the documentary know the facts.
-     QUESTIONS
+==QUESTIONS==
-     Now that "Falcon" and "Condor" have been identified, it seems
+Now that "Falcon" and "Condor" have been identified, it seems prudent to examine the past activities of [[Richard Doty]] and [[Bob Collins]] to see whether those activities tend to add to, or detract from, the credibility of the [[MJ-12]] scenario that they have so vigorously promoted within the ufological community.
-     Let's begin with [[Richard Doty|Doty]].  Sgt. Richard Charles Doty first received
+That is, do their actions reflect a genuine attempt to release authentic above top secret information to the public or, on the other hand, suggest a disinformation campaign designed to confuse and mislead?
       Researcher Benton Jamison located and contacted Weitzel in 1985
       (Enclosure E). Weitzel stated that he did indeed report a UFO

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			THE [[MJ-12]] AFFAIR:

	~~THE [[MJ-12]] AFFAIR:~~		Facts, Questions, Comments

	Facts, Questions, Comments




	~~Robert Hastings~~

	~~March 1, 1989~~		Robert Hastings

			March 1, 1989
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	FACTS		==FACTS==
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	First, it has been established that "Falcon", one of the		First, it has been established that "Falcon", one of the principle sources of the [[MJ-12]] material, is Richard C. Doty, formerly attached to District 17 Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) at Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] retired from the U.S. Air Force on October 1, 1988.
	principle sources of the [[MJ-12]] material, is Richard C. Doty,
	formerly attached to District 17 Air Force Office of Special
	Investigations (AFOSI) at Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque,
	New Mexico. Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] retired from the U.S. Air Force on
	October 1, 1988.

	How do I know that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon"? During a recent telephone		How do I know that [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] is "Falcon"? During a recent telephone conversation, Linda Moulton Howe told me that when Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]] invited her to his office at Kirtland AFB in early April 1983, and showed her a purportedly authentic U.S. Government document on UFOs, he identified himself as code-name "Falcon" and stated that it was Bill Moore who had given him that name.
	conversation, Linda Moulton Howe told me that when Sgt. [[Richard Doty\|Doty]]
	invited her to his office at Kirtland AFB in early April 1983,
	and showed her a purportedly authentic U.S. Government document
	on UFOs, he identified himself as code-name "Falcon" and stated
	that it was Bill Moore who had given him that name.

			pre>
	Also, in early December 1988, a ranking member of the production		Also, in early December 1988, a ranking member of the production
	team responsible for the "UFO Cover Up? -- Live" television		team responsible for the "UFO Cover Up? -- Live" television

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	In addition to the serious questions raised by the "Weitzel" letter and the Ellsworth AFB hoax, there also exist fundamental discrepancies between information provided by "Falcon" and the "facts" contained in the so-called Eisenhower briefing paper.		In addition to the serious questions raised by the "Weitzel" letter and the Ellsworth AFB hoax, there also exist fundamental discrepancies between information provided by "Falcon" and the "facts" contained in the so-called [[Eisenhower Briefing Document\|Eisenhower briefing paper]].

	The Briefing Document (Enclosure I) was purportedly written by alleged [[MJ-12]] member Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, in November 1952, for presentation to then President Elect [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]]. Among other things, it states that two UFOs had crashed, one in July 1947, near [[Roswell UFO Incident\|Roswell]], New Mexico; the other in December 1950, on the Texas-Mexico border.		The Briefing Document (Enclosure I) was purportedly written by alleged [[MJ-12]] member Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, in November 1952, for presentation to then President Elect [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]]. Among other things, it states that two UFOs had crashed, one in July 1947, near [[Roswell UFO Incident\|Roswell]], New Mexico; the other in December 1950, on the Texas-Mexico border.
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	About [[Robert Collins\|Robert "Bob" Collins]], I know very little. I have established at the time of his departure from the U.S. Air Force, he was assigned to the Plasma Physics group at [[Sandia National Laboratory]] located at Kirtland AFB. Linda Howe states that in November 1987, Collins was "frantically" trying to get her to meet with him in Albuquerque. At that meeting, also attended by [[John Lear]], [[Robert Collins\|Collins]] showed the two some [[MJ-12]] documents, primarily relating to a live alien allegedly held captive by the U.S. Government. According to Howe, Collins stated that he had worked "behind the scenes" with [[Bill Moore]] for years.		About [[Robert Collins\|Robert "Bob" Collins]], I know very little. I have established at the time of his departure from the U.S. Air Force, he was assigned to the Plasma Physics group at [[Sandia National Laboratory]] located at Kirtland AFB. Linda Howe states that in November 1987, Collins was "frantically" trying to get her to meet with him in Albuquerque. At that meeting, also attended by [[John Lear]], [[Robert Collins\|Collins]] showed the two some [[MJ-12]] documents, primarily relating to a live alien allegedly held captive by the U.S. Government. According to Howe, Collins stated that he had worked "behind the scenes" with [[Bill Moore]] for years.



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