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SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME<br> | |||
SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME | FILE: UFO1917 | ||
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(C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. | (C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service. All Rights Reserved. | ||
by Michael Corbin | by Michael Corbin<br> | ||
ParaNet Administrator | ParaNet Administrator | ||
ParaNet (Denver, CO)--October 11, 1989--July 2, 1947 could | |||
be a day that will go down in infamy in the history of UFOlogy. | be a day that will go down in infamy in the history of UFOlogy. | ||
The place--Roswell, New Mexico. The event--A crash of an | The place--Roswell, New Mexico. The event--A crash of an | ||
intelligent, biological entity controlled, highly sophisticated | intelligent, biological entity controlled, highly sophisticated | ||
machine from literally out of this world. So says the team of | machine from literally out of this world. So says the team of | ||
Don Schmitt, Regional Director of the J. Allen Hynek Center for | [[Don Schmitt]], Regional Director of the [[J. Allen Hynek]] Center for | ||
UFO Studies (CUFOS) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin Randle, a | UFO Studies ([[CUFOS]]) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin Randle, a | ||
former Captain in Air Force intelligence who began researching | former Captain in Air Force intelligence who began researching | ||
this highly controversial report from July, 1947. | this highly controversial report from July, 1947. | ||
According to the reports, a UFO crashed during a violent | |||
thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch northeast | thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch northeast | ||
of Corona, New Mexico around July 2, 1947. As has been | of Corona, New Mexico around July 2, 1947. As has been | ||
previously reported, the crash site was quickly cleaned up by | previously reported, the crash site was quickly cleaned up by | ||
personnel from Roswell | personnel from [[Roswell Army Air Force Base]] in Roswell, New | ||
Mexico. Jesse | Mexico. [[Jesse Marcel]] was quoted as stating that the material | ||
that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered | that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered | ||
to fly the remains to Carswell AFB in Texas where a press | to fly the remains to [[Carswell AFB]] in Texas where a press | ||
conference was held to tell the nation that the material found | conference was held to tell the nation that the material found | ||
was that of a crashed weather balloon. Further, unconfirmed | was that of a crashed weather balloon. Further, unconfirmed | ||
reports, claimed that alien bodies were also recovered and all | reports, claimed that alien bodies were also recovered and all | ||
remains were taken to the infamous 'Hangar 18' at Wright- | remains were taken to the infamous 'Hangar 18' at [[Wright-Patterson AFB]] in Dayton, Ohio where a tight security lid was | ||
Patterson | clamped down on the study of the find. To date, virtually none | ||
clamped | of this material has ever been substantiated. According to [[Don Schmitt]], a coverup of major proportions has ensued for over 42 years as to the true nature of the [[The Roswell UFO Incident|Roswell]] crash. | ||
of | |||
Schmitt, a coverup of major proportions has ensued for over | When Schmitt attempted to reconstruct a time line of the | ||
years as to the true nature of the Roswell crash. | |||
incident, he found too many pieces missing and began an | incident, he found too many pieces missing and began an | ||
investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those missing | investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those missing | ||
pieces really were. He enlisted the aid of former Air Force | pieces really were. He enlisted the aid of former Air Force | ||
Intelligence Captain | Intelligence [[Kevin Randle (Military)|Captain Kevin Randle]], whom Schmitt stated, was | ||
totally a skeptic. He was friends of Phil Klass, and Schmitt | totally a skeptic. He was friends of [[Phil Klass]], and Schmitt | ||
wanted such a skeptic involved in the investigation. According | wanted such a skeptic involved in the investigation. According | ||
to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now. | to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now. | ||
During the investigation, a definitive time line was | |||
established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was found | established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was found | ||
that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never | that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never | ||
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excavation of that area will be detailed in an upcoming | excavation of that area will be detailed in an upcoming | ||
publication of IUR. | publication of IUR. | ||
William Moore and Charles Berlitz drew national public | |||
attention to this incident with the publication of 'The Roswell | attention to this incident with the publication of 'The Roswell | ||
Incident' in 1980. During the investigation, Schmitt found that | Incident' in 1980. During the investigation, Schmitt found that | ||
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up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the | up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the | ||
military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated. | military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated. | ||
"There is clear evidence of a coverup. More evidence, in | |||
fact, of a coverup than ever before. In fact we can pinpoint | fact, of a coverup than ever before. In fact we can pinpoint | ||
where it originated, the time line, the manner and degree with | where it originated, the time line, the manner and degree with | ||
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So far, I have tracked down a dozen former military people who | So far, I have tracked down a dozen former military people who | ||
were involved who have never been interviewed." | were involved who have never been interviewed." | ||
When asked about why this material was never brought to | |||
light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings, Schmitt | light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings, Schmitt | ||
states, "The coverup was so effective at that time. If you think | states, "The coverup was so effective at that time. If you think | ||
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the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell us | the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell us | ||
'that we still cannot talk about it.'" | 'that we still cannot talk about it.'" | ||
When asked how the MJ-12 material is affected by this, | |||
Schmitt states, "It is the reason behind our initial | Schmitt states, "It is the reason behind our initial | ||
investigation. That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was | investigation. That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was | ||
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some details about Roswell that have surfaced from this | some details about Roswell that have surfaced from this | ||
investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to | investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to | ||
them. | them. [[Stanton Friedman]] has been encouraged by Don Schmitt to | ||
continue seeking the truth about MJ-12. It is noted here that | continue seeking the truth about [[MJ-12]]. It is noted here that | ||
Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in light | Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in light | ||
of these new facts about Roswell. There is corroboration between | of these new facts about Roswell. There is corroboration between | ||
Friedman and CUFOS. According to Schmitt, the focus of their | Friedman and CUFOS. According to Schmitt, the focus of their | ||
investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash. | investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash. | ||
on this. According to Jerome Clark, "The Roswell Incident is the | It appears that some very interesting things are surfacing | ||
on this. According to [[Jerome Clark]], "The Roswell Incident is the | |||
most important known UFO event in history. By the time that this | most important known UFO event in history. By the time that this | ||
investigation is over it will shape our future understanding of | investigation is over it will shape our future understanding of | ||
the UFO phenomenon. This investigation gets to the very core of | the UFO phenomenon. This investigation gets to the very core of | ||
all issues." | all issues." | ||
In closing, Clark stated that such questions as "Are UFOs | |||
real? Are they physical and intelligently controlled? Are they | real? Are they physical and intelligently controlled? Are they | ||
piloted by Biological Entities that originate outside of this | piloted by Biological Entities that originate outside of this | ||
world?" The answers could be a resounding, YES!! | world?" The answers could be a resounding, YES!! | ||
the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center | The full story will be released in upcoming issues of IUR, the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center | ||
for UFO Studies (CUFOS). For information on getting a | for UFO Studies (CUFOS). For information on getting a subscription of this publication, write to: | ||
subscription of this publication, write to: | |||
J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies | J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies<br> | ||
2457 West Peterson Avenue<br> | |||
Chicago, IL 60659<br> | |||
Subscriptions are $25.00 per year. | |||
Subscriptions are $25.00 per year.<br> | |||
ParaNet will continue its coverage of this event. | |||
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| Key Words: | UFO, Ufology, UAP |
SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME
FILE: UFO1917
(C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
by Michael Corbin
ParaNet Administrator
ParaNet (Denver, CO)--October 11, 1989--July 2, 1947 could
be a day that will go down in infamy in the history of UFOlogy.
The place--Roswell, New Mexico. The event--A crash of an
intelligent, biological entity controlled, highly sophisticated
machine from literally out of this world. So says the team of
Don Schmitt, Regional Director of the J. Allen Hynek Center for
UFO Studies (CUFOS) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin Randle, a
former Captain in Air Force intelligence who began researching
this highly controversial report from July, 1947.
According to the reports, a UFO crashed during a violent thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch northeast of Corona, New Mexico around July 2, 1947. As has been previously reported, the crash site was quickly cleaned up by personnel from Roswell Army Air Force Base in Roswell, New Mexico. Jesse Marcel was quoted as stating that the material that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered to fly the remains to Carswell AFB in Texas where a press conference was held to tell the nation that the material found was that of a crashed weather balloon. Further, unconfirmed reports, claimed that alien bodies were also recovered and all remains were taken to the infamous 'Hangar 18' at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio where a tight security lid was clamped down on the study of the find. To date, virtually none of this material has ever been substantiated. According to Don Schmitt, a coverup of major proportions has ensued for over 42 years as to the true nature of the Roswell crash.
When Schmitt attempted to reconstruct a time line of the incident, he found too many pieces missing and began an investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those missing pieces really were. He enlisted the aid of former Air Force Intelligence Captain Kevin Randle, whom Schmitt stated, was totally a skeptic. He was friends of Phil Klass, and Schmitt wanted such a skeptic involved in the investigation. According to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now.
During the investigation, a definitive time line was established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was found that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never been found nor had been interviewed. From this point onward, Schmitt and Randle made four trips to New Mexico and other parts of the country interviewing the witnesses to this incident. Locating the exact location of the crash, with the help of Bill Brazel, the son of the rancher that originally made the awesome discovery, Schmitt and Randle and some scientists conducted a survey and excavation of the crash site. Jerome Clark, editor for the CUFOS bi-monthly publication IUR, stated that the crash site was in an extremely remote area. The findings of the excavation of that area will be detailed in an upcoming publication of IUR.
William Moore and Charles Berlitz drew national public attention to this incident with the publication of 'The Roswell Incident' in 1980. During the investigation, Schmitt found that the material in the book was "highly inaccurate, and had much paraphrasing and many misquotes with very misleading information which really surprised us." The CUFOS investigation has turned up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated.
"There is clear evidence of a coverup. More evidence, in fact, of a coverup than ever before. In fact we can pinpoint where it originated, the time line, the manner and degree with which it took place," Schmitt said. "And, where the specific orders were coming from. Originally, Moore talked about one flight in the book with Jesse Marcel. We have found two other flights with other people and have tracked down those crewmen. So far, I have tracked down a dozen former military people who were involved who have never been interviewed."
When asked about why this material was never brought to light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings, Schmitt states, "The coverup was so effective at that time. If you think back to July, 1947, the intelligence network was at its peak just coming off the war. Everything was still in place and in high gear. They so quickly removed it from the intelligence office in Roswell. The Pentagon became involved immediately. All orders were going through counterintelligence and we have pinned down those people involved. They still deny involvement, but we have other people that testify to their involvement. So, the coverup is still ongoing. That surprised us too. That 42 years after the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell us 'that we still cannot talk about it.'"
When asked how the MJ-12 material is affected by this, Schmitt states, "It is the reason behind our initial investigation. That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was disinformation, it was to strike a death blow to Roswell we had to make a distinction and make it in a hurry." However, although some details about Roswell that have surfaced from this investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to them. Stanton Friedman has been encouraged by Don Schmitt to continue seeking the truth about MJ-12. It is noted here that Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in light of these new facts about Roswell. There is corroboration between Friedman and CUFOS. According to Schmitt, the focus of their investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash.
It appears that some very interesting things are surfacing on this. According to Jerome Clark, "The Roswell Incident is the most important known UFO event in history. By the time that this investigation is over it will shape our future understanding of the UFO phenomenon. This investigation gets to the very core of all issues."
In closing, Clark stated that such questions as "Are UFOs real? Are they physical and intelligently controlled? Are they piloted by Biological Entities that originate outside of this world?" The answers could be a resounding, YES!!
The full story will be released in upcoming issues of IUR, the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). For information on getting a subscription of this publication, write to:
J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies
2457 West Peterson Avenue
Chicago, IL 60659
Subscriptions are $25.00 per year.
ParaNet will continue its coverage of this event.
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