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SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME<br>
SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME                   FILE: UFO1917
FILE: UFO1917




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(C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service.  All Rights Reserved.
(C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service.  All Rights Reserved.


by Michael Corbin
by Michael Corbin<br>
ParaNet Administrator
ParaNet Administrator


    ParaNet  (Denver, CO)--October 11, 1989--July 2, 1947  could
 
ParaNet  (Denver, CO)--October 11, 1989--July 2, 1947  could
be  a day that will go down in infamy in the history of  UFOlogy.
be  a day that will go down in infamy in the history of  UFOlogy.
The  place--Roswell,  New  Mexico.  The  event--A  crash  of  an
The  place--Roswell,  New  Mexico.  The  event--A  crash  of  an
intelligent,  biological entity controlled, highly  sophisticated
intelligent,  biological entity controlled, highly  sophisticated
machine  from literally out of this world.  So says the  team  of
machine  from literally out of this world.  So says the  team  of
Don  Schmitt, Regional Director of the J. Allen Hynek Center  for
[[Don  Schmitt]], Regional Director of the [[J. Allen Hynek]] Center  for
UFO  Studies  (CUFOS) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin  Randle,  a
UFO  Studies  ([[CUFOS]]) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin  Randle,  a
former  Captain in Air Force intelligence who  began  researching
former  Captain in Air Force intelligence who  began  researching
this  highly controversial report from July, 1947.
this  highly controversial report from July, 1947.
    According  to  the reports, a UFO crashed during  a  violent
 
According  to  the reports, a UFO crashed during  a  violent
thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch  northeast
thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch  northeast
of  Corona,  New  Mexico  around  July  2,  1947.  As  has  been
of  Corona,  New  Mexico  around  July  2,  1947.  As  has  been
previously  reported,  the crash site was quickly cleaned  up  by
previously  reported,  the crash site was quickly cleaned  up  by
personnel  from  Roswell Army Air Force Base  in  Roswell,  New
personnel  from  [[Roswell Army Air Force Base]] in  Roswell,  New
Mexico.  Jesse Marcel was quoted as stating that  the  material
Mexico.  [[Jesse Marcel]] was quoted as stating that  the  material
that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered
that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered
to  fly  the  remains  to Carswell AFB in  Texas  where  a  press
to  fly  the  remains  to [[Carswell AFB]] in  Texas  where  a  press
conference  was held to tell the nation that the  material  found
conference  was held to tell the nation that the  material  found
was  that  of a crashed weather  balloon.  Further,  unconfirmed
was  that  of a crashed weather  balloon.  Further,  unconfirmed
reports,  claimed that alien bodies were also recovered  and  all
reports,  claimed that alien bodies were also recovered  and  all
remains  were  taken  to  the infamous  'Hangar  18'  at  Wright-
remains  were  taken  to  the infamous  'Hangar  18'  at  [[Wright-Patterson AFB]] in Dayton, Ohio where a tight  security  lid  was
Patterson AFB  in Dayton, Ohio where a tight  security  lid  was
clamped down on the study of the find.  To date, virtually  none
clamped down on the study of the find.  To date, virtually  none
of this material has ever been substantiated.  According to  [[Don Schmitt]],  a coverup of major proportions has ensued for  over 42 years as to the true nature of the [[The Roswell UFO Incident|Roswell]] crash.
of this material has ever been substantiated.  According to  Don
 
Schmitt,  a coverup of major proportions has ensued for  over 42
When Schmitt  attempted to reconstruct a time line  of  the
years as to the true nature of the Roswell crash.
    When Schmitt  attempted to reconstruct a time line  of  the
incident,  he  found  too  many  pieces  missing  and  began  an
incident,  he  found  too  many  pieces  missing  and  began  an
investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those  missing
investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those  missing
pieces  really  were.  He enlisted the aid of  former  Air  Force
pieces  really  were.  He enlisted the aid of  former  Air  Force
Intelligence  Captain Kevin Randle, whom  Schmitt  stated,  was
Intelligence  [[Kevin Randle (Military)|Captain Kevin Randle]], whom  Schmitt  stated,  was
totally  a  skeptic.  He was friends of Phil Klass,  and  Schmitt
totally  a  skeptic.  He was friends of [[Phil Klass]],  and  Schmitt
wanted  such a skeptic involved in the investigation.  According
wanted  such a skeptic involved in the investigation.  According
to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now.
to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now.
    During  the  investigation,  a  definitive  time  line  was
 
During  the  investigation,  a  definitive  time  line  was
established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was  found
established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was  found
that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never
that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never
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excavation  of  that  area  will  be  detailed  in  an  upcoming
excavation  of  that  area  will  be  detailed  in  an  upcoming
publication of IUR.
publication of IUR.
    William  Moore  and  Charles Berlitz  drew  national  public
 
William  Moore  and  Charles Berlitz  drew  national  public
attention  to this incident with the publication of 'The  Roswell
attention  to this incident with the publication of 'The  Roswell
Incident' in 1980.  During the investigation, Schmitt found  that
Incident' in 1980.  During the investigation, Schmitt found  that
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up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the
up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the
military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated.
military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated.
    "There  is clear evidence of a coverup.  More  evidence,  in
 
"There  is clear evidence of a coverup.  More  evidence,  in
fact,  of  a coverup than ever before.  In fact we  can  pinpoint
fact,  of  a coverup than ever before.  In fact we  can  pinpoint
where  it originated, the time line, the manner and  degree  with
where  it originated, the time line, the manner and  degree  with
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So  far, I have tracked down a dozen former military  people  who
So  far, I have tracked down a dozen former military  people  who
were involved who have never been interviewed."
were involved who have never been interviewed."
    When  asked  about why this material was  never  brought  to
 
When  asked  about why this material was  never  brought  to
light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings,  Schmitt
light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings,  Schmitt
states, "The coverup was so effective at that time.  If you think
states, "The coverup was so effective at that time.  If you think
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the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell  us
the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell  us
'that we still cannot talk about it.'"
'that we still cannot talk about it.'"
    When  asked  how  the MJ-12 material is  affected  by  this,
 
When  asked  how  the MJ-12 material is  affected  by  this,
Schmitt  states,  "It  is  the  reason  behind  our  initial
Schmitt  states,  "It  is  the  reason  behind  our  initial
investigation.  That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was
investigation.  That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was
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some  details  about  Roswell  that  have  surfaced  from  this
some  details  about  Roswell  that  have  surfaced  from  this
investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to
investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to
them.  Stan  Friedman  has been encouraged  by  Don  Schmitt  to
them.  [[Stanton Friedman]] has been encouraged  by  Don  Schmitt  to
continue  seeking the truth about MJ-12.  It is noted  here  that
continue  seeking the truth about [[MJ-12]].  It is noted  here  that
Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in  light
Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in  light
of these new facts about Roswell.  There is corroboration between
of these new facts about Roswell.  There is corroboration between
Friedman  and  CUFOS.  According to Schmitt, the focus  of  their
Friedman  and  CUFOS.  According to Schmitt, the focus  of  their
investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash.
investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash.
    It  appears that some very interesting things are  surfacing
 
on this.  According to Jerome Clark, "The Roswell Incident is the
It  appears that some very interesting things are  surfacing
on this.  According to [[Jerome Clark]], "The Roswell Incident is the
most important known UFO event in history.  By the time that this
most important known UFO event in history.  By the time that this
investigation  is over it will shape our future understanding  of
investigation  is over it will shape our future understanding  of
the UFO phenomenon.  This investigation gets to the very core  of
the UFO phenomenon.  This investigation gets to the very core  of
all issues."
all issues."
    In  closing, Clark stated that such questions as  "Are  UFOs
 
In  closing, Clark stated that such questions as  "Are  UFOs
real?  Are they physical and intelligently controlled?  Are  they
real?  Are they physical and intelligently controlled?  Are  they
piloted  by  Biological Entities that originate outside  of  this
piloted  by  Biological Entities that originate outside  of  this
world?"  The answers could be a resounding, YES!!
world?"  The answers could be a resounding, YES!!
    The  full story will be released in upcoming issues of  IUR,
 
the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center
The  full story will be released in upcoming issues of  IUR, the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center
for  UFO  Studies  (CUFOS).  For  information  on  getting  a
for  UFO  Studies  (CUFOS).  For  information  on  getting  a subscription of this publication, write to:
subscription of this publication, write to:
      
     J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies
J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies<br>
    2457 West Peterson Avenue
2457 West Peterson Avenue<br>
    Chicago, IL  60659
Chicago, IL  60659<br>
Subscriptions are $25.00 per year.
 
    ParaNet will continue its coverage of this event.
Subscriptions are $25.00 per year.<br>
 
ParaNet will continue its coverage of this event.


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UFO BBS/1917
File Name: 1917.ufo
Author: Unknown
Date: Unknown
Posting BBS: Unknown
BBS Main Page: UFO BBS Main Page
Key Words: UFO, Ufology, UAP


SUBJECT: A REVEALATION ON ROSWELL TO COME
FILE: UFO1917


(C) 1989 ParaNet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.

by Michael Corbin
ParaNet Administrator


ParaNet (Denver, CO)--October 11, 1989--July 2, 1947 could be a day that will go down in infamy in the history of UFOlogy. The place--Roswell, New Mexico. The event--A crash of an intelligent, biological entity controlled, highly sophisticated machine from literally out of this world. So says the team of Don Schmitt, Regional Director of the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS) of Chicago, Illinois, and Kevin Randle, a former Captain in Air Force intelligence who began researching this highly controversial report from July, 1947.

According to the reports, a UFO crashed during a violent thunderstorm in a very remote area of the Brazel ranch northeast of Corona, New Mexico around July 2, 1947. As has been previously reported, the crash site was quickly cleaned up by personnel from Roswell Army Air Force Base in Roswell, New Mexico. Jesse Marcel was quoted as stating that the material that he found in the desert was not of this world and was ordered to fly the remains to Carswell AFB in Texas where a press conference was held to tell the nation that the material found was that of a crashed weather balloon. Further, unconfirmed reports, claimed that alien bodies were also recovered and all remains were taken to the infamous 'Hangar 18' at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio where a tight security lid was clamped down on the study of the find. To date, virtually none of this material has ever been substantiated. According to Don Schmitt, a coverup of major proportions has ensued for over 42 years as to the true nature of the Roswell crash.

When Schmitt attempted to reconstruct a time line of the incident, he found too many pieces missing and began an investigation in September, 1987 to determine what those missing pieces really were. He enlisted the aid of former Air Force Intelligence Captain Kevin Randle, whom Schmitt stated, was totally a skeptic. He was friends of Phil Klass, and Schmitt wanted such a skeptic involved in the investigation. According to Schmitt, Randle 'has total conviction' in UFOs now.

During the investigation, a definitive time line was established from July 2, 1947 to July 10, 1947, and it was found that there were numerous witnesses to the incident that had never been found nor had been interviewed. From this point onward, Schmitt and Randle made four trips to New Mexico and other parts of the country interviewing the witnesses to this incident. Locating the exact location of the crash, with the help of Bill Brazel, the son of the rancher that originally made the awesome discovery, Schmitt and Randle and some scientists conducted a survey and excavation of the crash site. Jerome Clark, editor for the CUFOS bi-monthly publication IUR, stated that the crash site was in an extremely remote area. The findings of the excavation of that area will be detailed in an upcoming publication of IUR.

William Moore and Charles Berlitz drew national public attention to this incident with the publication of 'The Roswell Incident' in 1980. During the investigation, Schmitt found that the material in the book was "highly inaccurate, and had much paraphrasing and many misquotes with very misleading information which really surprised us." The CUFOS investigation has turned up some very interesting facts and is "specifically attacking the military involvement with Roswell," Schmitt stated.

"There is clear evidence of a coverup. More evidence, in fact, of a coverup than ever before. In fact we can pinpoint where it originated, the time line, the manner and degree with which it took place," Schmitt said. "And, where the specific orders were coming from. Originally, Moore talked about one flight in the book with Jesse Marcel. We have found two other flights with other people and have tracked down those crewmen. So far, I have tracked down a dozen former military people who were involved who have never been interviewed."

When asked about why this material was never brought to light with Ruppelt or Keyhoe in their previous writings, Schmitt states, "The coverup was so effective at that time. If you think back to July, 1947, the intelligence network was at its peak just coming off the war. Everything was still in place and in high gear. They so quickly removed it from the intelligence office in Roswell. The Pentagon became involved immediately. All orders were going through counterintelligence and we have pinned down those people involved. They still deny involvement, but we have other people that testify to their involvement. So, the coverup is still ongoing. That surprised us too. That 42 years after the fact, we still have these people that confidentially tell us 'that we still cannot talk about it.'"

When asked how the MJ-12 material is affected by this, Schmitt states, "It is the reason behind our initial investigation. That if the purpose behind the MJ-12 document was disinformation, it was to strike a death blow to Roswell we had to make a distinction and make it in a hurry." However, although some details about Roswell that have surfaced from this investigation that confirm such a group, there is no firm link to them. Stanton Friedman has been encouraged by Don Schmitt to continue seeking the truth about MJ-12. It is noted here that Stan Friedman is conducting a cooperative investigation in light of these new facts about Roswell. There is corroboration between Friedman and CUFOS. According to Schmitt, the focus of their investigation is Roswell and the details behind the crash.

It appears that some very interesting things are surfacing on this. According to Jerome Clark, "The Roswell Incident is the most important known UFO event in history. By the time that this investigation is over it will shape our future understanding of the UFO phenomenon. This investigation gets to the very core of all issues."

In closing, Clark stated that such questions as "Are UFOs real? Are they physical and intelligently controlled? Are they piloted by Biological Entities that originate outside of this world?" The answers could be a resounding, YES!!

The full story will be released in upcoming issues of IUR, the official bi-monthly publication for the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). For information on getting a subscription of this publication, write to:

J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies
2457 West Peterson Avenue
Chicago, IL 60659

Subscriptions are $25.00 per year.

ParaNet will continue its coverage of this event.

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