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SUBJECT: KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL<br>
FILE: UFO127




SUBJECT: KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL                      FILE: UFO127
Latrobe Bulletin<br>
Latrobe, Pa<br>
May 6, 1989




                                        Latrobe Bulletin
KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL
                                        Latrobe, Pa
                                        May 6, 1989


By Kim Opatka<br>
Bulletin Staff Writer
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                KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL
This final article in a six-part series on unidentified flying objects (UFOS) examines one of the most talked about and controversial incidents in the area, what has been termed a meteorite by some and an alien craft by others, which crashed in Kecksburg December 9, 1965.


                                        By Kim Opatka
The object was first seen streaking across the sky, with
                                        Bulletin Staff Writer
 
    This final article in a six-part series on unidentified flying
objects (UFOS) examines one of the most talked about and controversial
incidents in the area, what has been termed a meteorite by some and an
alien craft by others, which crashed in Kecksburg December 9, 1965.
 
    The object was first seen streaking across the sky, with
thousands from Michigan to New York witnessing a brilliant ball of
thousands from Michigan to New York witnessing a brilliant ball of
fire which left a smoke trail, visible for about 20 minutes after it
fire which left a smoke trail, visible for about 20 minutes after it
passed.
passed.


    Many, including pilots who observed it, thought it was an
Many, including pilots who observed it, thought it was an
aircraft which was on fire.  Reports of debris from the object were
aircraft which was on fire.  Reports of debris from the object were
made in many states, and an Ohio fire department was called to
made in many states, and an Ohio fire department was called to
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flaming fragments falling from the sky.
flaming fragments falling from the sky.


    Shock waves were reported by pilots, and a seismograph near
Shock waves were reported by pilots, and a seismograph near
Detroit recorded a shock, wrote investigator Stan Gordon, of
Detroit recorded a shock, wrote investigator Stan Gordon, of
Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU) in a
Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU) in a
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still trying to obtain information on the incident.
still trying to obtain information on the incident.


    Although the military eventually labeled the object a meteor, as
Although the military eventually labeled the object a meteor, as
did the Associated Press account published in The Bulletin the day
did the Associated Press account published in The Bulletin the day
after the crash, Gordon says recent evidence, including the discovery
after the crash, Gordon says recent evidence, including the discovery
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true UFO.
true UFO.


    "I was a teen-ager then," said John (not his real name).  "It was
"I was a teen-ager then," said John (not his real name).  "It was
in the early part of December and there was a little snow and a little
in the early part of December and there was a little snow and a little
rain, and mud."
rain, and mud."


    He was called to the scene after the 4:44 p.m. crash as a fireman
He was called to the scene after the 4:44 p.m. crash as a fireman
from the Latrobe area, to search for the crashed object.
from the Latrobe area, to search for the crashed object.


    "I had seen a fiery object in the sky.  I can't say exactly which
"I had seen a fiery object in the sky.  I can't say exactly which
direction but it was coming from the north.  It was not too much
direction but it was coming from the north.  It was not too much
longer and the fire whistle went off," he said.  "I answered the call
longer and the fire whistle went off," he said.  "I answered the call
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what I have just seen'."
what I have just seen'."


    When firemen arrived at the Kecksburg Fire Hall, maps were
When firemen arrived at the Kecksburg Fire Hall, maps were
reviewed and groups were given sections to search.
reviewed and groups were given sections to search.


    "It was getting semi-dusk and we had flashlights.  We were taken
"It was getting semi-dusk and we had flashlights.  We were taken
in the back of a truck and dropped off and told to go 'this way' which
in the back of a truck and dropped off and told to go 'this way' which
we did.  I was not on the initial contact team.  Another team found
we did.  I was not on the initial contact team.  Another team found
the object.
the object.


    "It was definitely, unequivocally, positively, absolutely no
"It was definitely, unequivocally, positively, absolutely no
aircraft, plane, helicopter or rocket, at least not to my knowledge.
aircraft, plane, helicopter or rocket, at least not to my knowledge.
It was in an area that was part field and part woods and we went down
It was in an area that was part field and part woods and we went down
to investigate," he said.
to investigate," he said.


    "We found the object had crashed at a 30 to 40 degree angle, and
"We found the object had crashed at a 30 to 40 degree angle, and
had broken off numerous tree branches in its impact path.  My initial
had broken off numerous tree branches in its impact path.  My initial
reaction was 'This is no airplane.' I observed no shrapnel, no
reaction was 'This is no airplane.' I observed no shrapnel, no
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windows.
windows.


    "Preliminary searches found no bodies or casualties.  It was
"Preliminary searches found no bodies or casualties.  It was
shaped like an acorn, laying on its side, like the acorn nut is in its
shaped like an acorn, laying on its side, like the acorn nut is in its
shell when it's on a tree," he explained.  "I've been a machinist for
shell when it's on a tree," he explained.  "I've been a machinist for
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that."
that."


    John said the object was not broken, "not even cracked, just
John said the object was not broken, "not even cracked, just
dented a bit.  It did not give off smoke, steam or vapors, at least
dented a bit.  It did not give off smoke, steam or vapors, at least
none that we could see."
none that we could see."


    Reports from neighbors in the area said it had given off a faint
Reports from neighbors in the area said it had given off a faint
trail of blue smoke, which disappeared after the crash.
trail of blue smoke, which disappeared after the crash.


    He described the portion visible as between eight and 10 feet
He described the portion visible as between eight and 10 feet
long, six and seven feet across, and said a man of average height
long, six and seven feet across, and said a man of average height
would probably have had little trouble standing up inside it.  The
would probably have had little trouble standing up inside it.  The
crater it plowed into the ground was "rectangular in shape."
crater it plowed into the ground was "rectangular in shape."


    John said the state police were there and the area was soon
John said the state police were there and the area was soon quarantined.
quarantined.


    "They drove us out.  It was late at night when we finally got
"They drove us out.  It was late at night when we finally got
back to the fire hall and it had been completely taken over by the
back to the fire hall and it had been completely taken over by the
military.  They were carrying in large pieces of equipment, radios and
military.  They were carrying in large pieces of equipment, radios and
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use the bathroom.
use the bathroom.


    "The military had control of the whole operation," John recalled.
"The military had control of the whole operation," John recalled.
"After a while we saw a flat bed truck come by with some other
"After a while we saw a flat bed truck come by with some other
military equipment, a crane or something.
military equipment, a crane or something.


    "It was not too much longer, an hour, an hour and a half, when
"It was not too much longer, an hour, an hour and a half, when
the trucks came back and there was a large object on the back of the
the trucks came back and there was a large object on the back of the
flat bed, covered by a tarp, with military escorts front and back.  I
flat bed, covered by a tarp, with military escorts front and back.  I
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meat.  They weren't stopping for anything."
meat.  They weren't stopping for anything."


    Although the object was later said to be a meteorite, John
Although the object was later said to be a meteorite, John
doesn't buy that explanation.
doesn't buy that explanation.


    "It had writing on it, not like your average writing, but more
"It had writing on it, not like your average writing, but more
like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.  It had sort of a bumper on it,
like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.  It had sort of a bumper on it,
like a ribbon about six to 10 inches wide, and it stood out.  It was
like a ribbon about six to 10 inches wide, and it stood out.  It was
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to this day come across anything that looked like that."
to this day come across anything that looked like that."


    John notes that later it was denied that the object was even a
John notes that later it was denied that the object was even a
meteorite, and the military "denied they were even in the area.  But I
meteorite, and the military "denied they were even in the area.  But I
know there were Air Force and Army personnel involved.  It was like
know there were Air Force and Army personnel involved.  It was like
they just came out of the woodwork."
they just came out of the woodwork."


    Gordon's research has revealed that one of the military groups
Gordon's research has revealed that one of the military groups
involved was most likely to be the 662nd Radar Squadron, based at the
involved was most likely to be the 662nd Radar Squadron, based at the
Oakdale Armory, located near Greater Pittsburgh International Airport.
Oakdale Armory, located near Greater Pittsburgh International Airport.


    The squadron was found to be under the control of the Aerospace
The squadron was found to be under the control of the Aerospace
Defense Command, and attempts to get information on the Kecksburg
Defense Command, and attempts to get information on the Kecksburg
crash, through the Freedom of Information Act, have not provided much
crash, through the Freedom of Information Act, have not provided much
to go on.
to go on.


    One response said there had been no record of the squadron being
One response said there had been no record of the squadron being
activated on that date, Gordon said, wondering how so much equipment
activated on that date, Gordon said, wondering how so much equipment
and personnel could be activated while the monthly report showed no
and personnel could be activated while the monthly report showed no
entry on Dec.  9.
entry on Dec.  9.


    Through his research, Gordon says he knows the Air Force was
Through his research, Gordon says he knows the Air Force was
still investigating UFO cases at the public level then, and that it
still investigating UFO cases at the public level then, and that it
was apparently the Project Blue Book staff which contacted the 662nd
was apparently the Project Blue Book staff which contacted the 662nd
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investigated crashes of "foreign space vehicles."
investigated crashes of "foreign space vehicles."


    Another strange occurrence that night, Gordon said, was reports by
Another strange occurrence that night, Gordon said, was reports by
some civilians that radiation was released.  He explained that some
some civilians that radiation was released.  He explained that some
children playing in the area had reportedly been told by military
children playing in the area had reportedly been told by military
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suits were allegedly seen at the site later the next day.
suits were allegedly seen at the site later the next day.


    Although he has considered the possibility that the object could
Although he has considered the possibility that the object could
have been space debris or a test device, Gordon says documents and
have been space debris or a test device, Gordon says documents and
evidence obtained in the last few years lead more in the direction of
evidence obtained in the last few years lead more in the direction of
it being a "true UFO."
it being a "true UFO."


    John concurs.
John concurs. "It was definitely not of this planet.  At the time I was a
    "It was definitely not of this planet.  At the time I was a
skeptical teen, but when you see something like that you don't forget
skeptical teen, but when you see something like that you don't forget
it.  When you get called out like that from the fire department you
it.  When you get called out like that from the fire department you
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UFO.
UFO.


    "I'll never forget it.  I still want to know what the hell it
"I'll never forget it.  I still want to know what the hell it was."
was."


    
    
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Key Words: UFO, Ufology, UAP

SUBJECT: KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL
FILE: UFO127


Latrobe Bulletin
Latrobe, Pa
May 6, 1989


KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL

By Kim Opatka
Bulletin Staff Writer

This final article in a six-part series on unidentified flying objects (UFOS) examines one of the most talked about and controversial incidents in the area, what has been termed a meteorite by some and an alien craft by others, which crashed in Kecksburg December 9, 1965.

The object was first seen streaking across the sky, with thousands from Michigan to New York witnessing a brilliant ball of fire which left a smoke trail, visible for about 20 minutes after it passed.

Many, including pilots who observed it, thought it was an aircraft which was on fire. Reports of debris from the object were made in many states, and an Ohio fire department was called to extinguish 10 small fires in an area where witnesses said they saw flaming fragments falling from the sky.

Shock waves were reported by pilots, and a seismograph near Detroit recorded a shock, wrote investigator Stan Gordon, of Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU) in a recent journal article. The crash has been a pet project of the Greensburg man "since the night it happened," he said, noting he is still trying to obtain information on the incident.

Although the military eventually labeled the object a meteor, as did the Associated Press account published in The Bulletin the day after the crash, Gordon says recent evidence, including the discovery of a man who saw the object, supports the idea that the object was a true UFO.

"I was a teen-ager then," said John (not his real name). "It was in the early part of December and there was a little snow and a little rain, and mud."

He was called to the scene after the 4:44 p.m. crash as a fireman from the Latrobe area, to search for the crashed object.

"I had seen a fiery object in the sky. I can't say exactly which direction but it was coming from the north. It was not too much longer and the fire whistle went off," he said. "I answered the call and was told they needed a search team because at the time they believed it was a downed aircraft. And I thought, 'My God, this is what I have just seen'."

When firemen arrived at the Kecksburg Fire Hall, maps were reviewed and groups were given sections to search.

"It was getting semi-dusk and we had flashlights. We were taken in the back of a truck and dropped off and told to go 'this way' which we did. I was not on the initial contact team. Another team found the object.

"It was definitely, unequivocally, positively, absolutely no aircraft, plane, helicopter or rocket, at least not to my knowledge. It was in an area that was part field and part woods and we went down to investigate," he said.

"We found the object had crashed at a 30 to 40 degree angle, and had broken off numerous tree branches in its impact path. My initial reaction was 'This is no airplane.' I observed no shrapnel, no breaking up of the fuselage. It was one solid piece, no doors, no windows.

"Preliminary searches found no bodies or casualties. It was shaped like an acorn, laying on its side, like the acorn nut is in its shell when it's on a tree," he explained. "I've been a machinist for 24 years and I've worked with a tremendous amount of different metals, and I have never seen any type of metal that looked even close to that."

John said the object was not broken, "not even cracked, just dented a bit. It did not give off smoke, steam or vapors, at least none that we could see."

Reports from neighbors in the area said it had given off a faint trail of blue smoke, which disappeared after the crash.

He described the portion visible as between eight and 10 feet long, six and seven feet across, and said a man of average height would probably have had little trouble standing up inside it. The crater it plowed into the ground was "rectangular in shape."

John said the state police were there and the area was soon quarantined.

"They drove us out. It was late at night when we finally got back to the fire hall and it had been completely taken over by the military. They were carrying in large pieces of equipment, radios and such, and they had armed guards posted outside so nobody could get in or out. The firemen were thrown out. We weren't even allowed in to use the bathroom.

"The military had control of the whole operation," John recalled. "After a while we saw a flat bed truck come by with some other military equipment, a crane or something.

"It was not too much longer, an hour, an hour and a half, when the trucks came back and there was a large object on the back of the flat bed, covered by a tarp, with military escorts front and back. I got the feeling that if you had stepped on the road you were dead meat. They weren't stopping for anything."

Although the object was later said to be a meteorite, John doesn't buy that explanation.

"It had writing on it, not like your average writing, but more like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. It had sort of a bumper on it, like a ribbon about six to 10 inches wide, and it stood out. It was elliptical the whole way around and the writing was on this bumper. It's nothing like I've ever seen, and I'm an avid reader. I read a lot of books on Egypt, the Incas, Peruvians, Russians and I've never to this day come across anything that looked like that."

John notes that later it was denied that the object was even a meteorite, and the military "denied they were even in the area. But I know there were Air Force and Army personnel involved. It was like they just came out of the woodwork."

Gordon's research has revealed that one of the military groups involved was most likely to be the 662nd Radar Squadron, based at the Oakdale Armory, located near Greater Pittsburgh International Airport.

The squadron was found to be under the control of the Aerospace Defense Command, and attempts to get information on the Kecksburg crash, through the Freedom of Information Act, have not provided much to go on.

One response said there had been no record of the squadron being activated on that date, Gordon said, wondering how so much equipment and personnel could be activated while the monthly report showed no entry on Dec. 9.

Through his research, Gordon says he knows the Air Force was still investigating UFO cases at the public level then, and that it was apparently the Project Blue Book staff which contacted the 662nd squadron. Subsequent reports have led him to theorize that even the Project Blue Book staff was not made aware of objects which could "affect national security," and that some intelligence teams investigated crashes of "foreign space vehicles."

Another strange occurrence that night, Gordon said, was reports by some civilians that radiation was released. He explained that some children playing in the area had reportedly been told by military personnel that that was a possibility, and men in decontamination suits were allegedly seen at the site later the next day.

Although he has considered the possibility that the object could have been space debris or a test device, Gordon says documents and evidence obtained in the last few years lead more in the direction of it being a "true UFO."

John concurs. "It was definitely not of this planet. At the time I was a skeptical teen, but when you see something like that you don't forget it. When you get called out like that from the fire department you think you're going out looking for an aircraft of some sort, not a UFO.

"I'll never forget it. I still want to know what the hell it was."


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