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SUBJECT: GRAY BARKER AND THE MEN-IN-BLACK | SUBJECT: GRAY BARKER AND THE MEN-IN-BLACK<BR> | ||
FILE: UFO1409 | |||
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Subj: RE: I'M CONFUSED | Subj: RE: I'M CONFUSED | ||
BJ> I remember the name 'Gray Barker' from MANY years ago,but from | BJ> I remember the name 'Gray Barker' from MANY years ago,but from | ||
BJ> then, he and Alex Bender (I think) were visited by 'TheMen in B | |||
BJ> after THAT, refused to discuss UFO's,and many OTHER things AT A | |||
Howdy Bud, | Howdy Bud, | ||
I'm not real sure what happened to Barker,he may well be | |||
dead,but as of 1979,Bill Moore had stated in The Phila.Experiment | dead,but as of 1979,Bill Moore had stated in The Phila.Experiment | ||
that reprint facsimiles of the original Varo edition of The Case | that reprint facsimiles of the original Varo edition of The Case | ||
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Phila.Navy Yard circa 1943? How bout some microfilm reprints of | Phila.Navy Yard circa 1943? How bout some microfilm reprints of | ||
every Philly Daily from the 1940's?...Ah,,never mind. | every Philly Daily from the 1940's?...Ah,,never mind. | ||
Anyway,I do have some info on Bender.The following is from the | |||
file MIBS_HST.ZIP,I have included only the text pertaining to Bender,but | file MIBS_HST.ZIP,I have included only the text pertaining to Bender,but | ||
there is much more on the history of MIB's and it's worth reading. | there is much more on the history of MIB's and it's worth reading. | ||
The origin of the Men in Black legend can be pin-pointed fairly | |||
exactly. Back in 1953 a man by the name of Albert K. Bender was | exactly. Back in 1953 a man by the name of Albert K. Bender was | ||
runnong an organization called the International Flying Suacer | runnong an organization called the International Flying Suacer | ||
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Review" that was dedicated to news of flying saucers. | Review" that was dedicated to news of flying saucers. | ||
The IFSB had a small membership despite its rather grandoise title, | |||
and "Space Review" reached at best, no more than a few hundred | and "Space Review" reached at best, no more than a few hundred | ||
readers. But they were all deeply devoted to the idea that flying | readers. But they were all deeply devoted to the idea that flying | ||
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up the October 1953 issue of "Space Review" and found two | up the October 1953 issue of "Space Review" and found two | ||
unexpected announcments: | unexpected announcments: | ||
"LATE BULLETIN. A source which the IFSB considers very reliable | |||
has informed us that the investigation of the flying soucer mystery | has informed us that the investigation of the flying soucer mystery | ||
and the solution is approaching its final stages." | and the solution is approaching its final stages." | ||
"This same source to whom we had referred data, which had come | |||
into our possession, suggested that it was not the proper method | into our possession, suggested that it was not the proper method | ||
and time to publish the data in 'Space Review'." | and time to publish the data in 'Space Review'." | ||
The second and more shocking item read: | |||
"STATEMENT OF IMPORTANCE: THe mystery of the flying saucers is | |||
no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any | no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any | ||
information about this is being withheld by order from a higher | information about this is being withheld by order from a higher | ||
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but because of the nature of the information we are very sorry that | but because of the nature of the information we are very sorry that | ||
we have been advised in the negative." | we have been advised in the negative." | ||
The statement ended with the ominous sentence, "We advice those engaged in saucer work to please be very cautious." Bender then suspended the publication of "Space Review", and disolved the IFSB. | |||
The tone of the announcemnets would have been familiar to anyone | The tone of the announcemnets would have been familiar to anyone | ||
who had much experience with occult organizations. Occultists often | who had much experience with occult organizations. Occultists often | ||
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explanation, but to all questions he replied either cryptically or | explanation, but to all questions he replied either cryptically or | ||
not at all. | not at all. | ||
This state of affairs created soncsiderable confusions amoung the | This state of affairs created soncsiderable confusions amoung the | ||
flying saucer buffs. What were they to think about sucah a strange | flying saucer buffs. What were they to think about sucah a strange | ||
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Also see: "Flying Saucers on The Attack" Harold T. Wilkins Ace | Also see: "Flying Saucers on The Attack" Harold T. Wilkins Ace | ||
Books (C) 195? A good account of the Albert K. Bender incident | Books (C) 195? A good account of the [[Albert K. Bender]] incident | ||
including views towards the MIBs durring the era it all started. | including views towards the MIBs durring the era it all started. | ||
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Revision as of 02:50, 14 July 2025
| File Name: | 1409.ufo |
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| Author: | Unknown |
| Date: | Unknown |
| Posting BBS: | Unknown |
| BBS Main Page: | UFO BBS Main Page |
| Key Words: | UFO, Ufology, UAP |
| Case File: | [[MIB Case File]] |
SUBJECT: GRAY BARKER AND THE MEN-IN-BLACK
FILE: UFO1409
Subj: RE: I'M CONFUSED BJ> I remember the name 'Gray Barker' from MANY years ago,but from BJ> then, he and Alex Bender (I think) were visited by 'TheMen in B BJ> after THAT, refused to discuss UFO's,and many OTHER things AT A
Howdy Bud,
I'm not real sure what happened to Barker,he may well be
dead,but as of 1979,Bill Moore had stated in The Phila.Experiment that reprint facsimiles of the original Varo edition of The Case For The UFO could be obtained through Gray Barker at Saucerian Press,P.O.Box 2228,Clarksburg,West Virgina 26302. I tried writting to Barker at the time,but all my letters came back "return to sender". By the way,wanna buy some slightly used maps of the Phila.Navy Yard circa 1943? How bout some microfilm reprints of every Philly Daily from the 1940's?...Ah,,never mind.
Anyway,I do have some info on Bender.The following is from the
file MIBS_HST.ZIP,I have included only the text pertaining to Bender,but there is much more on the history of MIB's and it's worth reading.
The origin of the Men in Black legend can be pin-pointed fairly
exactly. Back in 1953 a man by the name of Albert K. Bender was runnong an organization called the International Flying Suacer Bureau (IFSB) and editing a little publication called "Space Review" that was dedicated to news of flying saucers.
The IFSB had a small membership despite its rather grandoise title,
and "Space Review" reached at best, no more than a few hundred readers. But they were all deeply devoted to the idea that flying saucers were craft from outer soace. In common with other ture believers, these saucer buffs were convinced that they were in possession of a great truth, while most of the rest of the world remained in darkness and ignorance. They felt very important , and thus it was with a sense of surprise, even shock, that they opened up the October 1953 issue of "Space Review" and found two unexpected announcments:
"LATE BULLETIN. A source which the IFSB considers very reliable
has informed us that the investigation of the flying soucer mystery and the solution is approaching its final stages."
"This same source to whom we had referred data, which had come
into our possession, suggested that it was not the proper method and time to publish the data in 'Space Review'."
The second and more shocking item read:
"STATEMENT OF IMPORTANCE: THe mystery of the flying saucers is
no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any information about this is being withheld by order from a higher source. We would like to print the full story in "Space REview", but because of the nature of the information we are very sorry that we have been advised in the negative."
The statement ended with the ominous sentence, "We advice those engaged in saucer work to please be very cautious." Bender then suspended the publication of "Space Review", and disolved the IFSB.
The tone of the announcemnets would have been familiar to anyone who had much experience with occult organizations. Occultists often claim they are in the possession of some great secret which, for equally secret reasons, they cannot reveal. Even the appeal, "please be very cautious" was not unique. It made those engaged in "saucer work" feel more important . After all, who is going to bother to persecute you if you are just wasting your time?
SHortly after Bender closed down his magazine and organization he gave an interview to a local paper which he asserted the he had been visited by "three men wearing dark suits" who had order him "emphatically" to stop publishing material about flying saucers. Bender said that he had been "scared to death" and that he "acutally couldn't eat for a couple of days." Some of Bender's former associates tried to press for a more satisfactory explanation, but to all questions he replied either cryptically or not at all.
This state of affairs created soncsiderable confusions amoung the flying saucer buffs. What were they to think about sucah a strange story> Some were openly skeptical of Bender's tale. They said that his publication and organization were losing money and the tale of the three visitors who "ordered" him to stop publishing was just a face-saving gesture. Yet, as the years went by the "three Men in Black" began to sound more rspectable and they took on a life of their own. Some' were Bender's friends first thought that the Men in Black were from Air Force or the CIA, and indeed Bender's original statments do seem to sound like government agents. But after a while the Men in Black begun to assume a more extraterrestrial, even supernatural air.
Finally in 1963, a full decade after he first told of his mysterious visitors, Alber Bender elaborated further in a book called "Flying Sauvers adn the Three Men in Black." It was a strange, confused and virutally unreadable book that revealed very little in the way of hard facts, but did significantly enhance the reutation of the Men in Black as extraterrestrials. The book also introduced into the lore "three beautful women, dressed in tight white unigorms." Like thei r mail couterparts in black, the women in white had "glowing eys."
Also see: "Flying Saucers on The Attack" Harold T. Wilkins Ace Books (C) 195? A good account of the Albert K. Bender incident including views towards the MIBs durring the era it all started.
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