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What was  it the  President swore?  "That I will faith-
What was  it the  President swore?  "That I will faithfully execute the office  of  the  President  of  the United States,  and  will  to  the  best  of  my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."  
          fully execute the office  of  the  President  of  the United
          States,  and  will  to  the  best  of  my ability, preserve,
          protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."  
                          
                          


Is  this  preserving,  protecting  and  defending  the
Is  this  preserving,  protecting  and  defending  the Constitution?  Is their oath just a  bunch of  words  to  be recited when they take office?  If he were going  to do what his oath requires, why hasn't a president  told  Congress to pass a law abolishing executive orders?  
          Constitution?  Is their oath just a  bunch of  words  to  be
          recited when they take office?  If he were going  to do what
          his oath requires, why hasn't a president  told  Congress to
          pass a law abolishing executive orders?  


Why  hasn't  the  Congress  simply  taken the lawmaking
Why  hasn't  the  Congress  simply  taken the lawmaking ability  away  from  the  president?    Why  hasn't Congress assumed  their  duties  as  required  by  the  Constitution? Looks like  we have  allowed things  to get  away from us in the last few years, doesn't it?  What  do our  kids have to look forward to if we don't stop this horse dung now?
          ability  away  from  the  president?    Why  hasn't Congress
          assumed  their  duties  as  required  by  the  Constitution?  
          Looks like  we have  allowed things  to get  away from us in
          the last few years, doesn't it?  What  do our  kids have to
          look forward to if we don't stop this horse dung now?
Let's  take  a  look  at  some  of the powers they will
          assume  if  there  is  "any  national  emergency,  including
          nuclear attack":


Part 9-Department of Commerce
Let's  take  a  look  at  some  of the powers they will assume  if  there  is  "any  national  emergency,  including nuclear attack":


Section 901.  Resume of Responsibilities.  The  Secretary of Commerce  shall  prepare  national  emergency  plans  and develop preparedness programs covering:
==Part 9-Department of Commerce==
 
'''Section 901'''.  Resume of Responsibilities.  The  Secretary of Commerce  shall  prepare  national  emergency  plans  and develop preparedness programs covering:


(1) The production and distribution of all materials, the use  of  all  production  facilities (except those owned by, controlled by,  or under  the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense or the Atomic Energy Commission), the  control of all construction  materials, and the furnishing of basic industrial  services  except  those  otherwise  assigned,  including:
(1) The production and distribution of all materials, the use  of  all  production  facilities (except those owned by, controlled by,  or under  the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense or the Atomic Energy Commission), the  control of all construction  materials, and the furnishing of basic industrial  services  except  those  otherwise  assigned,  including:
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(f)  Distribution of items  in  the supply systems of, or controlled by, the Department  of  Defense  and  the  Atomic Energy Commission;
(f)  Distribution of items  in  the supply systems of, or controlled by, the Department  of  Defense  and  the  Atomic Energy Commission;


(g)   Construction, use, and management of civil  aviation facilities; and  
(g) Construction, use, and management of civil  aviation facilities; and  


(h)     Construction,  use  and  management  of  highways, streets, and appurtenant structures; and
(h) Construction,  use  and  management  of  highways, streets, and appurtenant structures; and


(i) Domestic distribution of health resources.
(i) Domestic distribution of health resources.
                          
                          
Scary?  Unbelievable?  You bet it is.  And  this is on the books right now just  waiting for the  moment to declare any type of national emergency.  
Scary?  Unbelievable?  You bet it is.  And  this is on the books right now just  waiting for the  moment to declare any type of national emergency.  
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For those  who dabble  in the  stock market, under part 25 they will assume the power  to close  the market, suspend any redemption  rights,  freeze prices of stocks and bonds. Then they will allow it  to  reopen  only  when  they decide conditions  permit  and  under  their  complete  control.  Remember when Roosevelt changed the  value  of  an  ounce of gold from $20 to $35?  Who benefitted then?  Not us.
For those  who dabble  in the  stock market, under part 25 they will assume the power  to close  the market, suspend any redemption  rights,  freeze prices of stocks and bonds. Then they will allow it  to  reopen  only  when  they decide conditions  permit  and  under  their  complete  control.  Remember when Roosevelt changed the  value  of  an  ounce of gold from $20 to $35?  Who benefitted then?  Not us.


And for  you readers  who own property and believe that
And for  you readers  who own property and believe that property belongs to you, we have a little  surprise.  Not if this  executive  order  becomes  effective.  You  will  own nothing then.  Here's  what Part  22 of the Executive Order has to say about that:
          property belongs to you, we have a little  surprise.  Not if
          this  executive  order  becomes  effective.  You  will  own
          nothing then.  Here's  what Part  22 of the Executive Order
          has to say about that:


(9) National industrial reserve and machine tool program.
(9) National industrial reserve and machine tool program. Develop plans for the custody of the  Industrial  plants and production equipment in the national  industrial reserve and assist the Department of Defense, in  collaboration with the Department of  Commerce,  in  the  development of  plans and procedures for the disposition, emergency reactivation,  and utilization of the plants and equipment of  this  reserve in the custody of the Administrator.
          Develop plans for the custody of the  Industrial  plants and
          production equipment in the national  industrial reserve and
          assist the Department of Defense, in  collaboration with the
          Department of  Commerce,  in  the  development of  plans and
          procedures for the disposition, emergency reactivation,  and
          utilization of the plants and equipment of  this  reserve in
          the custody of the Administrator.


(10)  Excess and surplus real and personal property.
(10)  Excess and surplus real and personal property. Develop plans and  emergency  operating  procedures  for the utilization of excess and surplus real and personal property by Federal Government agencies with emergency assignments or by State and local governmental units as directed, including review of the property holdings of Federal agencies which do not possess  emergency  functions  to  determine  the availability of  property  for  emergency use, and including the disposal of real and  personal property  and the rehabilitation of personal property.
          Develop plans and  emergency  operating  procedures  for the
          utilization of excess and surplus real and personal property
          by Federal Government agencies with emergency assignments or
          by State and local governmental units as directed, including
          review of the property holdings of Federal agencies which do
          not possess  emergency  functions  to  determine  the avail-
          ability of  property  for  emergency use, and including the
          disposal of real and  personal property  and the rehabilita-
          tion of personal property.


What  do they mean  by excess property?  Will they tell
What  do they mean  by excess property?  Will they tell you what of  your property  is excess?  Are  these decisions meant to punish  people who  had the  foresight  to put away coins or  food for  bad times?  If you have been wise enough to sock these items away, please don't tell anyone.
          you what of  your property  is excess?  Are  these decisions
          meant to punish  people who  had the  foresight  to put away
          coins or  food for  bad times?  If you have been wise enough
          to sock these items away, please don't tell anyone.


And what is 'rehabilitation of personal property?'  If
And what is 'rehabilitation of personal property?'  If someone doesn't like the way  you  use  your  property, will they  take  it  from  you  and  give  it  to  someone  else? Rehabilitation  is  'restoring  to  good  operation  or good management'.
          someone doesn't like the way  you  use  your  property, will
          they  take  it  from  you  and  give  it  to  someone  else?
          Rehabilitation  is  'restoring  to  good  operation  or good
          management'.


Are these  powers we  granted to the central government
Are these  powers we  granted to the central government under the Constitution?  Where  do  they get the idea that they  can  issue  Executive  Orders and decide a certain day that the Constitution is dead?
          under the Constitution?  Where  do  they get the idea that
          they  can  issue  Executive  Orders and decide a certain day
          that the Constitution is dead?


Did you notice  that the  Department  of  Commerce will
Did you notice  that the  Department  of  Commerce will take over all housing and lodging facilities, does that mean your home also?  Maybe it also needs rehabilitation?  
          take over all housing and lodging facilities, does that mean
          your home also?  Maybe it also needs rehabilitation?  


They will assume control of  all health,  education and
They will assume control of  all health,  education and welfare facilities.  You'd  better believe  it will include all schools, public and  private, elementary and  secondary. There will be no arguments  about school prayer or momentary silence anymore.  The decision will be made for us.
          welfare facilities.  You'd  better believe  it will include
          all schools, public and  private, elementary and  secondary.
          There will be no arguments  about school prayer or momentary
          silence anymore.  The decision will be made for us.


The implications are staggering.  This  is a  blueprint for a dictatorship and slavery.  No, I haven't been smoking loco weed . . . this is for real.
The implications are staggering.  This  is a  blueprint for a dictatorship and slavery.  No, I haven't been smoking loco weed . . . this is for real.
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Plans  are  all  set "to  assist  civilian  educational institutions,  both public and private, to adjust to demands laid on them  by a  large expansion of government activities during any type  of  emergency.  This  includes advice  and assistance to  schools,  colleges,  universities, and  other educational institutions whose facilities may be temporarily needed for  Federal,  State, or  local  programs in an emergency."
Plans  are  all  set "to  assist  civilian  educational institutions,  both public and private, to adjust to demands laid on them  by a  large expansion of government activities during any type  of  emergency.  This  includes advice  and assistance to  schools,  colleges,  universities, and  other educational institutions whose facilities may be temporarily needed for  Federal,  State, or  local  programs in an emergency."


Wonder what they mean  by "adjust to  demands  laid upon
Wonder what they mean  by "adjust to  demands  laid upon them by a large expansion of  government activities?"  Again notice the special words:  "during  any type  of emergency." They didn't even mention major nuclear attack.
          them by a large expansion of  government activities?"  Again
          notice the special words:  "during  any type  of emergency."
          They didn't even mention major nuclear attack.


Since "large expansion of government activities"  is not
Since "large expansion of government activities"  is not defined, do they have any limitation?  All this is in  store for American citizens.
          defined, do they have any limitation?  All this is in  store
          for American citizens.


They  have  established  what  they  call  the  'Federal
They  have  established  what  they  call  the  'Federal Preparedness Agency'  under the General Services Administration which  has the  responsibility to see that this program is carried out.  We should keep our eye on the GSA.  
          Preparedness Agency'  under the General Services Administra-
          tion which  has the  responsibility to see that this program
          is carried out.  We should keep our eye on the GSA.  


Better yet, get after Congress to  get this  law  making
Better yet, get after Congress to  get this  law  making ability taken away from the executive  branch of government.  
          ability taken away from the executive  branch of government.  


This program of executive  orders is  the most dangerous
This program of executive  orders is  the most dangerous weapon in the  hands of government  designed to  make us all slaves.  If "X" day is called, America  will be  no more and we will  be powerless  to do  anything about it.  Our action has to be NOW.  Waiting one day too long will be one day too late.
          weapon in the  hands of government  designed to  make us all
          slaves.  If "X" day is called, America  will be  no more and
          we will  be powerless  to do  anything about it.  Our action
          has to be NOW.  Waiting one day too long will be one day too
          late.


Many will not believe this could happen in our country.
Many will not believe this could happen in our country. Write Congress and raise questions about this.  Ask how they delegated their  law  making  powers  to  the executive branch.
              Write Congress and raise questions about this.  Ask how
          they delegated their  law  making  powers  to  the executive
          branch.


Ask  where   they  found  this  authority.    Ask  your
Ask  where they  found  this  authority.    Ask  your Congressman for a copy of this particular executive order.
          Congressman for a copy of this particular executive order.


Imagine  12,000  laws of this  type on the books at the
Imagine  12,000  laws of this  type on the books at the present . . .  All  without any  authority  from us.  And of course, no need to tell  the  American  people  about these, they wouldn't understand them anyway.   
          present . . .  All  without any  authority  from us.  And of
          course, no need to tell  the  American  people  about these,
          they wouldn't understand them anyway.   


Is this part of the  glory of the  position  in government? Congress has  delegated  emergency  powers  to  the president . . . Congress  has no power or  right to delegate any of their powers.  No where  in our  Constitution does it say anything  about  giving 'emergency  powers to the president'.
Is this part of the  glory of the  position  in government? Congress has  delegated  emergency  powers  to  the president . . . Congress  has no power or  right to delegate any of their powers.  No where  in our  Constitution does it say anything  about  giving 'emergency  powers to the president'.

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EXECUTIVE ORDERS

Let's eyeball the executive branch of the national government. This will be a beauty! Caesar is alive and well in Washington, D.C. You better believe it.

Earlier mention was made of executive orders. Our research shows the first use of these orders was by President George Washington for household expenses. It was an order signed by him for normal expenses which would be accepted by the Treasury Department and paid. Simple enough.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation was formed under an executive order by Teddy Roosevelt on July 26, 1908.

The first time it was used to make a law was in 1916 by President Woodrow Wilson. It was said to be an 'emergency' measure and Congress was encouraged to validate it. They did.

The door was now open to ignore the Constitution.

This is the same method used by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933 to close all the banks in the country. Remember our gold? Americans were ordered to turn in all their gold to local banks. AFTER this was done, King Roosevelt, by executive order, raised the value of an ounce of gold from $20.00 to $35.00! Guess who that benefitted? International bankers and central banks around the world . . that's who. Americans who turned in their gold were royally screwed.

What are the duties of the executive branch? To make laws or to see that they are faithfully executed?

Nothing in our Constitution allows the president to pass a law or make a law under any circumstances. Nor is there any suggestion that the Congress can delegate their lawmaking authority to the executive branch, emergency or no emergency!

Yet they have done it and they continue to do it without any permission in the Constitution or any amendment. How do they ignore their oath to uphold and support the Constitution? Why not ask them?

Let's explore their law making activities . . . government uses a publication called the Federal Register where all regulations are published daily. (Regulations? Where the hell did that come from?) This publication amounts to more than 70,000 pages a year. Here is where the executive orders are published.

When they appear, they remain in limbo for 30 days and the Congress or any citizen can write and object to it. 70,000 pages a year would take a full-time staff member of each member of the Congress to watch and study these 'regulations'. Congress pays no attention to the Federal Register.

At the end of the required thirty days, all these regulations become 'law' and have the full effect of law! There are occasions where these are challenged in courts when they have affected some individual and a few have been overturned. See how simple they have made it? Write it, put it in a federal publication and if no one says anything about it, it mysteriously becomes law.

All sorts of regulations from every division of the executive branch are published in the Federal Register and this is where all the goodies are listed. If you doubt the 'laws' in the Federal Register have teeth, write the Government Printing Office and request a copy.

What happened to the concept that only the Congress can make a law? Did you say it was OK or was there an amendment passed by the people allowing this to go on?

Now let's look at some of the real dirty work they have done with executive orders. . There are over 12,000 laws of this type on the books now. Congress, when asked, does not even know what they are. This is our lawmaking body. Part of the government that is supposed to "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty" . . . snicker, snicker . . .

This one is really scary . . . A blueprint for a dictatorship!

Executive Order No. 11921 was published in the Federal Register in June 1976 and updated since. This is the master plan for tyranny and the death of our Constitution.

All the President has to do is declare a national emergency and big brother will or can take over every form of newspaper, radio and television stations. They will confiscate your CB's, weapons, tell you where to live, work, how much food you can have, establish rationing and price controls. In effect, they can declare martial law and you will not be able to do anything about it. Neither can the Congress.

Can you imagine a law like this on the books in this country?

All they are waiting for is a certain set of circumstances and someone who wants to be a dictator and away we go.

If you haven't heard or read about Executive Orders, this one especially, let me break the bad news. It's on the books.

Most bureaucrats and their egghead lackeys, when asked about this executive order, will say it only concerns the orderly control of the country if we have a nuclear attack. This is a cockeyed lie!

The opening words of Executive Order 11921 are blunt: "WHEREAS our national security is dependent upon our ability to assure continuity of government, at every level, in any national emergency type situation that might conceivably confront the nation; and WHEREAS effective national preparedness planning to meet such an emergency, including a massive nuclear attack. . ."

Look closely at the words they are using, "any national emergency . . . including massive nuclear . . . " is clear. They can decide what the emergency is and it does NOT have to be nuclear attack. Congressional investigators began to look into this subject and found 470 special statutes which can be invoked by the President in a declared national emergency. Where the hell did they find the power for him to be able to declare a national emergency?

Senator Mathias testified before a House Judiciary committee in 1975:

"Under the authority delegated by these statutes, the President may seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens."

This is only the frosting . . . Wait until we look at the real powers they will have when they decide which day will be 'X-Day'.

How can this be? From this 1975 testimony, Congress is aware of what can be done yet they do nothing to control this power. Are they all part of this 'mutual admiration society' in the cesspool known as Washington DC? Most will probably tell you "I don't know this, so it must be false." Where did we go wrong? How did they assume this power in absolute violation of the Constitution and all the oaths they have taken before they took office?


What was it the President swore? "That I will faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


Is this preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution? Is their oath just a bunch of words to be recited when they take office? If he were going to do what his oath requires, why hasn't a president told Congress to pass a law abolishing executive orders?

Why hasn't the Congress simply taken the lawmaking ability away from the president? Why hasn't Congress assumed their duties as required by the Constitution? Looks like we have allowed things to get away from us in the last few years, doesn't it? What do our kids have to look forward to if we don't stop this horse dung now?

Let's take a look at some of the powers they will assume if there is "any national emergency, including nuclear attack":

Part 9-Department of Commerce

Section 901. Resume of Responsibilities. The Secretary of Commerce shall prepare national emergency plans and develop preparedness programs covering:

(1) The production and distribution of all materials, the use of all production facilities (except those owned by, controlled by, or under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense or the Atomic Energy Commission), the control of all construction materials, and the furnishing of basic industrial services except those otherwise assigned, including:

(a) Production and distribution of and use of facilities for petroleum, solid fuels, gas, electric power and water;

(b) Production, processing, distribution, and storage of food resources and the use of food resource facilities for such production, processing, distribution and storage;

(c) Domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer;

(d) Use of communications services and facilities, housing and lodging facilities, and health, education, and welfare facilities;

(e) Production, and related distribution, of minerals as defined in Subsection 702(5), and source materials as defined in the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended; and the construction and use of facilities designated as within the responsibilities of the Secretary of the Interior;

(f) Distribution of items in the supply systems of, or controlled by, the Department of Defense and the Atomic Energy Commission;

(g) Construction, use, and management of civil aviation facilities; and

(h) Construction, use and management of highways, streets, and appurtenant structures; and

(i) Domestic distribution of health resources.

Scary? Unbelievable? You bet it is. And this is on the books right now just waiting for the moment to declare any type of national emergency.

Do you believe for a moment that we will still be using our computers with the freedom we enjoy today? Chuckle . .

Let's just suppose there were several major bank failures and powers that be decided that they couldn't afford any more failures. A national emergency was called.

Under part 17 of the same executive order, they will take over the complete supervision of all banks and banking operations . . . To the point that they will decide if you can take any money out of your account. They will demand to know what you will spend it for and decide how much you can have. However, if they do not have enough funds to give the full amount, they can ration the funds. If they figure you want your money to hoard it, they can simply refuse to give it to you. Cute?

This includes all banking facilities, so don't feel safe just because your money is in a credit union. They have everything covered! Each check they honor for over $1000 will have to have both sides photographed and of course, none of these regulations will apply to any transactions between banks. Just who does this money belong to?

Is it still the United States? Makes you wonder . . .

For those who dabble in the stock market, under part 25 they will assume the power to close the market, suspend any redemption rights, freeze prices of stocks and bonds. Then they will allow it to reopen only when they decide conditions permit and under their complete control. Remember when Roosevelt changed the value of an ounce of gold from $20 to $35? Who benefitted then? Not us.

And for you readers who own property and believe that property belongs to you, we have a little surprise. Not if this executive order becomes effective. You will own nothing then. Here's what Part 22 of the Executive Order has to say about that:

(9) National industrial reserve and machine tool program. Develop plans for the custody of the Industrial plants and production equipment in the national industrial reserve and assist the Department of Defense, in collaboration with the Department of Commerce, in the development of plans and procedures for the disposition, emergency reactivation, and utilization of the plants and equipment of this reserve in the custody of the Administrator.

(10) Excess and surplus real and personal property. Develop plans and emergency operating procedures for the utilization of excess and surplus real and personal property by Federal Government agencies with emergency assignments or by State and local governmental units as directed, including review of the property holdings of Federal agencies which do not possess emergency functions to determine the availability of property for emergency use, and including the disposal of real and personal property and the rehabilitation of personal property.

What do they mean by excess property? Will they tell you what of your property is excess? Are these decisions meant to punish people who had the foresight to put away coins or food for bad times? If you have been wise enough to sock these items away, please don't tell anyone.

And what is 'rehabilitation of personal property?' If someone doesn't like the way you use your property, will they take it from you and give it to someone else? Rehabilitation is 'restoring to good operation or good management'.

Are these powers we granted to the central government under the Constitution? Where do they get the idea that they can issue Executive Orders and decide a certain day that the Constitution is dead?

Did you notice that the Department of Commerce will take over all housing and lodging facilities, does that mean your home also? Maybe it also needs rehabilitation?

They will assume control of all health, education and welfare facilities. You'd better believe it will include all schools, public and private, elementary and secondary. There will be no arguments about school prayer or momentary silence anymore. The decision will be made for us.

The implications are staggering. This is a blueprint for a dictatorship and slavery. No, I haven't been smoking loco weed . . . this is for real.

Plans are all set "to assist civilian educational institutions, both public and private, to adjust to demands laid on them by a large expansion of government activities during any type of emergency. This includes advice and assistance to schools, colleges, universities, and other educational institutions whose facilities may be temporarily needed for Federal, State, or local programs in an emergency."

Wonder what they mean by "adjust to demands laid upon them by a large expansion of government activities?" Again notice the special words: "during any type of emergency." They didn't even mention major nuclear attack.

Since "large expansion of government activities" is not defined, do they have any limitation? All this is in store for American citizens.

They have established what they call the 'Federal Preparedness Agency' under the General Services Administration which has the responsibility to see that this program is carried out. We should keep our eye on the GSA.

Better yet, get after Congress to get this law making ability taken away from the executive branch of government.

This program of executive orders is the most dangerous weapon in the hands of government designed to make us all slaves. If "X" day is called, America will be no more and we will be powerless to do anything about it. Our action has to be NOW. Waiting one day too long will be one day too late.

Many will not believe this could happen in our country. Write Congress and raise questions about this. Ask how they delegated their law making powers to the executive branch.

Ask where they found this authority. Ask your Congressman for a copy of this particular executive order.

Imagine 12,000 laws of this type on the books at the present . . . All without any authority from us. And of course, no need to tell the American people about these, they wouldn't understand them anyway.

Is this part of the glory of the position in government? Congress has delegated emergency powers to the president . . . Congress has no power or right to delegate any of their powers. No where in our Constitution does it say anything about giving 'emergency powers to the president'.

The argument goes that in today's world, time could be important and the president has to be able to act quickly. It may be true, however, it cannot be in this country without a grant for that authority from the people.

No where does the right appear to do any thing in case of a mistake or an emergency. The procedures are well defined and it is our duty to see that they are observed. There is no other way in America!

If they feel granting emergency powers is so important, propose an amendment to the Constitution and see if we will agree to the importance. Of course the amemdment procedure is slow and cumbersome. It was meant to be that way. We have ordained and established the authority for our government and only we can agree to changes.

Just because a practice has been used for a long period does not make it right. If the practice was unconstitutional when it began, it is still unconstitutional.

George Washington wrote in his Farewell Address: "The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and alter their constitutions of government. But the constitution which at the time exists till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people is sacredly obligatory upon all."

He plainly recognized the basis for our government. When did this change occur? It has been said that tyranny comes on slowly. Before anyone realizes it, it's present. Is that what we have today?

Is this the vehicle to make our sovereignty disappear and for the USA to become a full fledged member of the United Nations under Bush's New World Order?

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World Order?


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