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(7834) Mon 13 Jul 92 12:23p | (7834) Mon 13 Jul 92 12:23p<br> | ||
By: Charles Mcgrew | By: Charles Mcgrew<br> | ||
To: All | To: All<br> | ||
Re: Re: Men In Black (mib's) | Re: Re: Men In Black (mib's)<br> | ||
St: | St: Reply chain 7720 7861<br> | ||
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From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew) | From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)<br> | ||
Date: 13 Jul 92 14:15:31 GMT | Date: 13 Jul 92 14:15:31 GMT<br> | ||
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. | Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.<br> | ||
Message-ID: <Jul.13.10.15.30.1992.11465@dropout.rutgers.edu> | Message-ID: <Jul.13.10.15.30.1992.11465@dropout.rutgers.edu><br> | ||
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors | Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors<br> | ||
jcitro3@odin.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III) writes: | |||
Did anyone else out there catch the Sightings show on the Fox Network last night (10 July 92)? I know some of you are overseas, so here is a brief overview. | |||
... yeah, it was a fairly short segment, which touched on (barely) the | ... yeah, it was a fairly short segment, which touched on (barely) the | ||
helicopters-with-no-markings stuff too. | helicopters-with-no-markings stuff too. | ||
<blockquote> | |||
Apparently some of the latest UFO sightings have a common characteristc. Men in black have been threatening the witnesses!! | |||
</blockquote> | |||
... actually, this sort of report is not new: | ... actually, this sort of report is not new: | ||
From Brad Steiger's disorganized opus "Mysteries of Time & Space" | |||
Prenntice-Hall, 1974, ISBN 0-113-609040-0 (some of the book first | Prenntice-Hall, 1974, ISBN 0-113-609040-0 (some of the book first | ||
appeared in "Saga" and "Male" magazine -- that should give you some | appeared in "Saga" and "Male" magazine -- that should give you some | ||
context of the 'hardness' of this info, but it is grist for the mill). | context of the 'hardness' of this info, but it is grist for the mill). | ||
In September, 1953 Albert K. Bender had figured out parts of the | |||
origin of flying saucers, and sent his theory off to a "trusted | origin of flying saucers, and sent his theory off to a "trusted | ||
friend". Soon thereafter three men dressed in black appeared, with | friend". Soon thereafter three men dressed in black appeared, with | ||
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ill. | ill. | ||
Bender, apparently to "save mankind", kept the details to himself | |||
and gave up UFO research. Parts of this story were retold in Gray | and gave up UFO research. Parts of this story were retold in Gray | ||
Barker's "They knew too much about flying saucers" (1956) [without the | Barker's "They knew too much about flying saucers" (1956) [without the | ||
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Australia and New Zealand) had also been visited. | Australia and New Zealand) had also been visited. | ||
Bender decided to tell all in his 1962 "Flying Saucers and the | |||
Three Men", which (Steiger says) was disappointing, in that it didn't | Three Men", which (Steiger says) was disappointing, in that it didn't | ||
tell much (that anyone wanted to know, anyway). Alien bases in | tell much (that anyone wanted to know, anyway). Alien bases in | ||
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haven't been able to find this book.) | haven't been able to find this book.) | ||
However, others continued to stick to the MIB story, saying that | |||
Bender had in fact been silenced. "Bender was a changed man after the | Bender had in fact been silenced. "Bender was a changed man after the | ||
MIB visited him. It was as if he had been lobotomized." He suffered | MIB visited him. It was as if he had been lobotomized." He suffered | ||
headaches that he said were caused by 'them'. | headaches that he said were caused by 'them'. | ||
Steiger says that "large numbers" of UFO-ologists have been | |||
harassed by *somebody*. A number of them (none named, unfortunately) | harassed by *somebody*. A number of them (none named, unfortunately) | ||
had had photographs and negatives of UFO's confiscated by people | had had photographs and negatives of UFO's confiscated by people | ||
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do is a violation of search and seizure laws.] | do is a violation of search and seizure laws.] | ||
In an issue of "Saucer Scoop" (as usual, Steiger doesn't give an | |||
issue number) John Keel is quoted as saying that MIB are professional | issue number) John Keel is quoted as saying that MIB are professional | ||
terrorists who go from place to place making sure that too much isn't | terrorists who go from place to place making sure that too much isn't | ||
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must be in on it, because they refuse to investigate MIB. | must be in on it, because they refuse to investigate MIB. | ||
[[George Freeman (Military)|Col. George Freeman]] (Blue Book) was quoted by Steiger as being | |||
quoted by Keel (do you get the drift here of Mr. Steiger's | quoted by Keel (do you get the drift here of Mr. Steiger's | ||
"journalistic" zeal?) as saying that MIB cases were investigated by | "journalistic" zeal?) as saying that [[MIB]] cases were investigated by | ||
Blue Book, and that they weren't connected to the Air Force in any | Blue Book, and that they weren't connected to the Air Force in any | ||
way. Steiger goes on to detail how four bogus USAF officers | way. Steiger goes on to detail how four bogus USAF officers | ||
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tell you such things to convince you to be quiet. | tell you such things to convince you to be quiet. | ||
From there, Steiger goes off the deep end, claiming that MIB are to | |||
be found throughout history, as "Trickster", "Poltergeist" or | be found throughout history, as "Trickster", "Poltergeist" or | ||
"Sorcerer" figures. Well, I didn't say this was a good source, now | "Sorcerer" figures. Well, I didn't say this was a good source, now | ||
did I? | did I? | ||
A comment on clothing: I've seen various things about the material | |||
the MIB supposedly wear -- its made of a plastic-like substance, a | the MIB supposedly wear -- its made of a plastic-like substance, a | ||
rubbery substance, and in Steiger's book the material is described by | rubbery substance, and in Steiger's book the material is described by | ||
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the Korean war". | the Korean war". | ||
Comments on appearance: I've seen all sorts of descriptions of | |||
MIB's physical appearance -- here's another that I haven't seen | MIB's physical appearance -- here's another that I haven't seen | ||
before: "Jim" (no date, no last name): "He was cadaverous... he | before: "Jim" (no date, no last name): "He was cadaverous... he | ||
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Charles | Charles | ||
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(8698) Tue 23 Mar 93 2:49p<br> | |||
By: Mike Dear<br> | |||
To: All<br> | |||
Re: Men In Black<br> | |||
St:<br> | |||
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From: sbsb1mjd@dct.ac.uk (Mike Dear)<br> | |||
Date: 23 Mar 93 12:42:43 GMT<br> | |||
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology<br> | |||
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.124243.4753@dct.ac.uk><br> | |||
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors<br> | |||
Does anyone have any information on the so called Men In Black? | |||
I think that i may have been visited by one. | I think that i may have been visited by one. | ||
I'd be interested to hear from anyone with a similar experience. | I'd be interested to hear from anyone with a similar experience. | ||
E-mail me on SBSB1MJD@DCT.AC.UK | |||
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| BBS Main Page: | ParaNet Main Page |
| Key Words: | ParaNet, UFO, Ufology |
| Case File: | [[MIB Case Files]] |
(7834) Mon 13 Jul 92 12:23p
By: Charles Mcgrew
To: All
Re: Re: Men In Black (mib's)
St: Reply chain 7720 7861
@UFGATE newsin 1.27
From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Date: 13 Jul 92 14:15:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Message-ID: <Jul.13.10.15.30.1992.11465@dropout.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
jcitro3@odin.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III) writes:
Did anyone else out there catch the Sightings show on the Fox Network last night (10 July 92)? I know some of you are overseas, so here is a brief overview.
... yeah, it was a fairly short segment, which touched on (barely) the helicopters-with-no-markings stuff too.
Apparently some of the latest UFO sightings have a common characteristc. Men in black have been threatening the witnesses!!
... actually, this sort of report is not new:
From Brad Steiger's disorganized opus "Mysteries of Time & Space" Prenntice-Hall, 1974, ISBN 0-113-609040-0 (some of the book first appeared in "Saga" and "Male" magazine -- that should give you some context of the 'hardness' of this info, but it is grist for the mill).
In September, 1953 Albert K. Bender had figured out parts of the origin of flying saucers, and sent his theory off to a "trusted friend". Soon thereafter three men dressed in black appeared, with his letter in hand. They told him 'the real story', and he became ill.
Bender, apparently to "save mankind", kept the details to himself and gave up UFO research. Parts of this story were retold in Gray Barker's "They knew too much about flying saucers" (1956) [without the part of 'revealed truth'], and said that several other people (in Australia and New Zealand) had also been visited.
Bender decided to tell all in his 1962 "Flying Saucers and the Three Men", which (Steiger says) was disappointing, in that it didn't tell much (that anyone wanted to know, anyway). Alien bases in Antartica (which Bender saw by Astral Projection), and so on. (I haven't been able to find this book.)
However, others continued to stick to the MIB story, saying that Bender had in fact been silenced. "Bender was a changed man after the MIB visited him. It was as if he had been lobotomized." He suffered headaches that he said were caused by 'them'.
Steiger says that "large numbers" of UFO-ologists have been harassed by *somebody*. A number of them (none named, unfortunately) had had photographs and negatives of UFO's confiscated by people claiming "government affiliation" (curious term, that) - "usually three, usually dressed in black". [BTW, if you ever get a visit from MIB (or indeed bona fide government agents, what they're asking you to do is a violation of search and seizure laws.]
In an issue of "Saucer Scoop" (as usual, Steiger doesn't give an issue number) John Keel is quoted as saying that MIB are professional terrorists who go from place to place making sure that too much isn't found out about the UFO phenominon. Keel says that MIB victims appear to be subjected to "some sort of brainwashing technique that leaves him in a state of nausea, mental confusion, or even amnesia lasting for several days". Keel goes on to charge that local police/FBI/etc. must be in on it, because they refuse to investigate MIB.
Col. George Freeman (Blue Book) was quoted by Steiger as being quoted by Keel (do you get the drift here of Mr. Steiger's "journalistic" zeal?) as saying that MIB cases were investigated by Blue Book, and that they weren't connected to the Air Force in any way. Steiger goes on to detail how four bogus USAF officers (Men-In-Blue, I guess :-) told witnesses in NJ that they "hadn't seen a thing" in 1967, and that they shouldn't tell anyone what they saw.
... Steiger goes on to give sketchy details of several other MIB visitations (though several are of encounters with a single man, not three), claiming to be NORAD officers, from the "UFO Research Institute", and (my favorite) "a government agency so secret he couldn't give its name". Also, telephone and mail harassment and messages from TV's and radios are mentioned. The MIB know where you're going, where you've been, and what you've been doing, and will tell you such things to convince you to be quiet.
From there, Steiger goes off the deep end, claiming that MIB are to be found throughout history, as "Trickster", "Poltergeist" or "Sorcerer" figures. Well, I didn't say this was a good source, now did I?
A comment on clothing: I've seen various things about the material the MIB supposedly wear -- its made of a plastic-like substance, a rubbery substance, and in Steiger's book the material is described by "Major Joseph Jenkins, Retired, Field Investigations Director for the UFO Research Institute of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania" in 1968 as "reminding him of the quilted uniforms (by Korean/Chinese troops) in the Korean war".
Comments on appearance: I've seen all sorts of descriptions of MIB's physical appearance -- here's another that I haven't seen before: "Jim" (no date, no last name): "He was cadaverous... he looked like those WWII photographs of someone in a concentration camp. But he seemed alert enough."
Charles
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By: Mike Dear
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Re: Men In Black
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From: sbsb1mjd@dct.ac.uk (Mike Dear)
Date: 23 Mar 93 12:42:43 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1993Mar23.124243.4753@dct.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Does anyone have any information on the so called Men In Black?
I think that i may have been visited by one.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone with a similar experience.
E-mail me on SBSB1MJD@DCT.AC.UK
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