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ParaNet BBS/intrude2
| File Name: | intrude2.txt |
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| Key Words: | ParaNet, UFO, Ufology |
(665) Wed 24 Jun 92 12:30p Rcvd: Mon 29 Jun 11:27a
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To: Michael Corbin
Re: Re: Opinion Poll - Intruders
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From scicom!ncar!servprod.inel.gov!jeffl
From: jeffl@servprod.inel.gov (Jeff Later)
To: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 11:49 MDT
In article <138783.2A479C14@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> you write:
>I would like to get feedback from the netters out here about your impression
>of the recent CBS Mini-series, Intruders.
>Please post them here or email them to me at mcorbin@paranet.org. Please be
>specific about what you liked or didn't like about it, the quality of
>information, etc.
>Thanks,
>Mike
Hello Mike:
Thanks for your interest in what some of "us" think about this program.
I wish you had made this request a fews days or so after the program....
I may have forgotten some of it, but will do my best:
Overall:
I was initially impressed with the fairly "objective" viewpoint taken.
I am getting REALLY tired of this subject being addressed in an "enterainment"
form. Even if a great deal of the subject matter is based on actual
incidents and witness reports, the "entertainment format" seems to set
a fictional tone for the entire program. I still am not sure just what the
motive for making the program wa$. At first I was excited in that it
seemed like as much info. as possible on this topic was going to be
presented to the general public in an objective manner, which may have
been a little TOO much info to digest, in so short a program. Initially
the "abductors" are portrayed as sinister and evil, and then near the
end of the second show the atmosphere changes to portray them as benevolent!?!
Why???
I think most of Bud's book was fairly well covered, but feel a little TOO
much artistic license was taken regarding the "implants" portion of the
film.
Is it just me, or does there seem to be a LOT more media coverage regarding
this topic? I can't believe all the T.V. commercials that are integrating
this theme into their ads!
Could our friend Mr Allen be correct in his opinion that this is all
part of making us "more aware" or "conditioning" us for "Oct. 92"???
Would be happy to talk with you further about specific portions of the film
if there are certain parts that you need more info on.
WHEN will start seeing a little more professional and documentary type
coverage of this subject????
Thanks again Mike
Regards,
Jeff jeffl@pmafire.inel.gov
^^^(No, I am NOT a "spook"!!!!!)
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(666) Wed 24 Jun 92 3:31p Rcvd: Mon 29 Jun 11:27a
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From: scicom!gatech!execu.execu.com!mike (Mike McCants)
To: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 12:04:28 -0500
I did not waste even 1 second watching it.
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From scicom!ncar!andrew.cmu.edu!ak35+
From: ak35+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andy Kurtz)
To: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 16:47:27 -0400 (EDT)
hi michael.
First a bit about me: I'm a cultural theorist currently stationed at
Carnegie Mellon University. My training is in the humanities and my
research interests are popular culture and political theory. So I did
not watch intruders expecting to see anything like an objective
representation of the alien abduction experience. Rather, like
everything on TV, Intruders is/was informed by countless nodes of
ideology and history -- everything from institutional politics and
discipline to traditional patriarchal relations (among a host of
others). That is, for me Intruders was not interesting for its
infotainment value but for how that information was presented, around
what representations, etc.
So with this in mind, I thought Intruders was pretty great! I thought
the creation of suspense through the play on sexual/religious
inseceurity/undecideability was especially effective (if also pretty
misogynist). I'm thinking here of the LA thread with the women who
finds herself pregnant (immaculate! -- boyfriend's not at all concerned,
I wondered), who has an abortion without consent (the pro-lifer's
party-line but leveled in such a way as to make her anger the anger of a
feminist -- I would argue), and for whom the intruders represent the
epitome of male domination -- the ultimate dictator. That this scenario
should be played out with such vigor in 1992 is not surprising in light
of our governments attempts to control women's bodies.
Special effects? Again, I thought they were pretty good, formally:
atmospheric, weird, etc. Certainly they were better than most
representations of the alien stuff on tv or in the movies for that
matter.
Anyway, I won't go on much more but to suggest that this movie fits a
genre of tv movies dubbed by a friend of mine, "trauma drama". They are
usually didactic, tackle some sort of social issue, and usually portray
some sort of violence against women (this isn't a judgement -- i
personally think made-for-tv movies are fairly radical). The
pentultimate scene of the trauma drama usually involves some "expert" (a
man, most often) imparting information to the audience concerning the
issue being portrayed. Intruders was no exception to this, fitting well
within the parameters of the genre.
I think it's silly to use truth and objectivity as critera for judging
anything on tv. That said, I think tv is a very powerful medium and
draws us into it when we're least expecting it (including myself, and I
do this for a living!). I'm interested in hearing what kind of response
you get...
andy sez check it out!
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(668) Wed 24 Jun 92 7:33p Rcvd: Mon 29 Jun 11:27a
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To: Michael Corbin
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From scicom!ncar!cps.msu.edu!wilbur
From: wilbur@cps.msu.edu
To: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Corbin)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 19:45:38 EDT
Well, I think that the show was a good start to introduce people who dont
have
a clue as to what the controversy is about. I mean people who dont read the
tabloids or go out of their way to read a book, or use the Internet.
I think that people will think that the show was more of a science fiction
attempt rather than a serious attempt to inform people of the tremendous
traumathat these people are experiencing.
I am a firm believer in that aliens are here and are abducting. And further
believe that the government does know about it.
A tremendous amount of people have know idea of the hugh amount of sightings
orabductions that are being stated. Here at Michigan State University, just
about
every student here knows absolutely nothing about it. The most that they know
is
the movie Close Encounters, or ET. Most are still under that impression that
all sightings are explained as balloons, venus, drunks, drugs...
Non of them know about the hugh number of reported sigtings that are reported
not
by "Tommy Lee and Billy Joe Jim Bob" down the street, but rather by Airforce,
airplane pilots, astronauts, Presidents...you name it.
I think the movie was made to much like a movie, it seemed almost fake. Know
what I mean?
Anyways, thats my limited input.
Brick
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From scicom!ncar!sequent.com!wolfe
From: wolfe@sequent.com (David Wolfe)
To: mcorbin@paranet.org
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 92 17:29:07 PDT
Cc: sweiger@sequent.com
Didn't like it. Just another network TV ripoff of current public
fears. Just like the sleazy movies they do after "real life" events
(big divorce trials, wife/child/elder abuse, murders, deformities,
etc.) where "the names have been changed to protect the innocent."
-DaveW
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(671) Fri 26 Jun 92 2:31a Rcvd: Mon 29 Jun 11:27a
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To: Michael Corbin
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From scicom!isis!sequent!techbook!tomf
From: scicom!isis!sequent!techbook.com!tomf (Thomas E. Flynn)
To: p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 92 04:38 PDT
Cc: techbook.com!tomf
In article <138783.2A479C14@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> you write:
>I would like to get feedback from the netters out here about your impression
>of the recent CBS Mini-series, Intruders.
>
>Please post them here or email them to me at mcorbin@paranet.org. Please be
>specific about what you liked or didn't like about it, the quality of
>information, etc.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
Hi Mike,
In general, I liked the mini series. It was one of the few television
movies/news features that treated the abduction phenomena as something
more than someone's dreams. I thought that the government coverup bit
was a little heavy, though. It seemed to stay fairly close to the book,
which was good. I would certainly like to see more about this in the
media.
Later.
-Tom
P.S. What's the current phone number of the Paranet BBS? I tried an
old number that I had, but it didn't work. Thanks!
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