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(3071) Mon 18 Nov 91 12:05p
By: Ncar!astro.dnet.ge.com!carr@scicom.
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Re: Mystery Object - Cross Post
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Date: 18 Nov 91 18:33:41 GMT
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From: Paul Carr <CARR@ASTRO.dnet.ge.com>
#: 93980 S14/News/Current Events
13-Nov-91 18:24:55
Sb: #Mystery Object!
Fm: SKY & TELESCOPE 70007,2762
To: All
Okay, WHAT IS OUT THERE??!! The two latest IAU Circulars describe a most
unusual 20th-magnitude object in Cetus, which has been under scrutiny by the
Spacewatch telescope in Arizona since November 6th. Orbital solutions by Brian
G. Marsden indicate it has an orbit remarkably similar to that of the Earth --
as if it is 'dogging' our planet! In the low-key language of the IAU
Circulars, the suggestion is made that it 'might be a returning spacecraft.'
Dr. Marsden has told S&T that if it is the hulk of some interplanetary probe,
it might have been launched either 16 or 32 years ago. On that assumption,
maybe it's time to start looking at what probes were being launched by the U.
S. and U. S. S. R. in 1959 and 1975.
The object is heading slowly toward a rendezvous with Earth on December 5th,
when it will be 0.0031 astronomical unit away (the Moon's distance is 0.0026
a.u.).
In case anyone wants to explore the past motion of this object, the elements
given by Marsden on IAU Circular 5387 are as follows:
Epoch = 1991 Oct. 31.0 ET
T = 1992 Jan. 14.1186 ET Arg. peri. = 260.8887
e = 0.065262 Long. node = 212.9200 (1950.0)
q = 0.971470 a.u. Inclination = 0.3913
a = 1.039297 Period 1.060 years
The approach to Earth will change these elements considerably. For example, by
early January the argument of perihelion becomes 26 degrees, and the longitude
of the ascending node 79 degrees!
-- Roger
#: 94006 S14/News/Current Events
14-Nov-91 09:01:54
Sb: #93980-Mystery Object!
Fm: Frank Hentschel 75126,72
To: SKY & TELESCOPE 70007,2762 (X)
A quick look through my database shows the following in that time frame:
Name Catnr Intdes Source Launch Decay/Status
============ ===== ========== ====== ========= =========
PIONEER 5 27 ALPHA 1 US 11 MAR 60 SOLAR ORB
VENERA 1 80 GAMMA 1 USSR 12 FEB 61 SOLAR ORB
LUNA 1 112 MU 1 USSR 02 JAN 59 SOLAR ORB
PIONEER 4 113 NU 1 US 03 MAR 59 SOLAR ORB
HELIOS 1 7567 1974 097A FRG 10 DEC 74 SOLAR ORB
HELIOS 2 8582 1976 003A FRG 15 JAN 76 SOLAR ORB
. cheers -fjh
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(3790) Sat 7 Dec 91 8:45p
By: Bruce Fairbanks
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Here is a story I read in our local paper today (Sacramento Bee-
Sacramento,CA): UFO SLIPS BY EARTH,REMAINS A PUZZLE
By David L. Chandler Boston Globe BOSTON - The unidentified
object that hurtled past Earth before dawn on Thursday remains a mystery,
astronomers said Friday, and it apparently slipped by without them getting a
good look at it. A week ago astronomers had decided that the tiny object,
which passed slightly farther away from Earth than the moon's distance of 240,
000 miles, was probably an asteroid - a chunk of interplanetary rock probably
less than 30 feet across. But observations on Monday by European
astronomers working in Chile showed dramatic variations in brightness, which
suggest an irregularly shaped, tumbling object with great variations in its
surface reflectivity, much more so than expected for a natural object like an
asteroid, said astronomer Brian Marsden. Marsden said Friday that the
variation in brightness "means we are dealing with some very peculiar object. I
would say man-made. I
think it would be hard to explain this kind of variation with a
natural object, even a small one."
But Marsden and others are still puzzling over what kind of
man-made object it is.
Marsden said two weeks ago that it was probably the leftover
Centaur rocket used in 1974 to launch a solar satellite called Helios.
But more precise calculations of the object's orbit, based on the
latest observations, show that, traced backward, it never quite meets
Earth as it should if it had been launched from Earth.
There is a possible explanation for that discrepancy, Marsden
said. Centaur rockets sometimes contain leftover hydrogen fuel after
they reach orbit, and this fuel could continue to leak out, perhaps
for years. This could propel the rocket in unpredictable directions.
During its closest approach to Earth on Thursday, the object was
too far south to be visible from anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere.
Astronomers at the European Southern Observatory in Chile tried to get
pictures of it shortly after its closest approach in order to get more
precise data on its exact path and to make further measurements of its
brightness varations.
But as of Friday, they were unable to find any sign of the object
in their pictures.
Because of the difficulty of the observation and the faintness of
the object, astronomers Richard West and Oliver Hainaut at the
observatory in the Chilean Andes continued to examine their images
carefully Friday.
These observations are essential to guarantee the success of a
planned radar observation of the object when it returns to visibility
in the Northern Hemisphere next week. A successful radar observation
"would clinch it" as to whether the object is natural or artificial,
Marsden said.
Because of the uncertain movements of a rocket leaking leftover
fuel, however, it may never be possible to identify it as a specific
rocket.
If it is artificial, but not a known rocket, that might explain
the astronomers' inability to locate it in their pictures, Marsden
joked.
"Maybe that's why they couldn't be found last night," he said.
"Maybe they landed."
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(1169) Sat 15 Feb 92 12:27p
By: Len Bucuvalas (408
To: All
Re: Something Wicked This Way Comes?
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From: lpb@STRATUS.SWDC.STRATUS.COM (Len Bucuvalas (408)559-5363)
Date: 14 Feb 92 22:58:57 GMT
Message-ID: <9202142258.AA28258@echidna.swdc.stratus.com>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Sorry if some of this has been here before. Some of this is new.
Len
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Thu 30 May 91 19:29
By: Mike Christol
Re: Something is Coming
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The following information is taken directly form the April issue of The Long
Island U.F.O. Update, the monthly bulletin for the Long Island UFO Network.
THE CHAIRMAN'S CORNER BY JOHN FORD
SOMETHING IS COMING OUR WAY!
In Ufology, you hear a lot of strange stories. Some you have to take
at face value, while others are too far fetched to believe even in this
strange study of unusual objects and humanoid beings. Some stories you mark
off as holding merit, but lack supporting evidence to bolster their
credability until a later date when something might surface which could prove
their validity.
This is such a story. As yet no evidence exists to support it, yet I
have a gut feeling that something might be to it. Only time will tell if the
evidence or a coming event will prove its veracity.
It seems that in 1987, NASA picked up the presence of a very large
planetoid object entering our solar system near the area of Pluto. It was
first detected by Voyager and later confirmed by telescope observations both
radio and optical. The object is very large, measuring over a thousand miles
in diameter or even larger.
The object has been under constant observation since. It was last
reported in the area of Jupiter. That last position was of January of this
year. It was observed to be leaving a very long Ionization trail behind it.
The object has made at least three mid course corrections, by the way.
That is peculiar for a planetoid object like an asteroid to do. It
sounds as if it is not what it appears to be. It sounds like it is under
intelligent control. Its orbit will bring it into Earth's orbit by late 1992
or early 1993. What it is, is anyone's guess.
Linda Moulton Howe has reported this story to us. She had it confirmed
by a Pentagon Military Officer. The story relayed to her indicates that the
Government is keeping it a secret and is tracking it through the auspices of
the Jet Propulsion Laboratories and McDonald Douglas' facilities. The object
is being tracked by the Hubble telescope and several of the recent infra-red
telescopes recently lofted by various Space Shuttle Missions. All of this
concealed by public announcements that the missions are being deployed to
photograph distant stars or the Sun's corona. The Hubble telescope doesn't
work and needs to be repaired, yet it is pointed straight out there and can
return pictures through computer enhancement.
I have had the story confirmed by George Dickson and Mike Crystal,
(Christol, my corrected spelling) both reputable U.F.O. Researchers of
impeccable reputation, through independent contacts in the
Scientific-Military establishment.
The object may soon be seen by the average person as time advances. It
may not be so easy then to conceal the truth from the public.
Consider this too. Our Moon's orbit has condensed by three thousand
miles while the Earth's axis has tilted slightly as if pushed ever so gently
by the invisible hand of a tremendous gravitational field. Have you noticed
the strange weather patterns we have been having lately?
U.F.O. Abductees recount their experiences with the authority that
something very big will happen in the next several years. Whatever it is,
they can't recall it, but they know the event will occur.
Is something coming our way? Is this one of those stories to mark
away?
-END-
Now, the "official" word is that SS433 (Stephenson-Saundeleak) is
a very odd-behaviour type pulsar...but it would appear, that this
is a cover for the above-mentioned article. This article,BTW, appeared
on the MUFONET HQ BBS and Mike Christol is a very credible/reliable
MUFON investigator.
However, this is such a *hot* topic, that even a glancing mention of
this on either the UFO echoes of the BBS world, or the Internet will most
certainly guarantee you a gold class invite to a royal flaming.
Have you figured out how the Govt intends to do this?
Here's a clue...
Project SETI has been chosen to be the point organization that will
announce to the world a "discovery"..it will be that they have
established communication with an "alien race" (the lower Greys). The
Greys will "land" at either Whitesands in NM, or at Area 51 in Nevada.
(e.g. an effect like a low efficiency rocket). This in turn would perturb the
comet orbits, resulting in a "comet shower" of the sort associated with the
extenction of the dinasours. (That is, a large number of comets, whose orbit
now carries them into the inner solar system, and a resulting increase in the
probability of comet inpacts with the Earth).
A local amature astronomer, John Hewitt(sp?), has written a paper on the
subject. He is also of the five amature astronomers to recieve observing time
on the Space Telescope, to look for a similar vaporization (and UV glow) from
hypothetical comets around the next, nearby nova.
Frank Crary
UC Berkeley
Article 15719 of sci.astro:
Subject: Mystery Object of Thursday, 12/5
Message-ID: <TOM.91Dec11120040@kether.webo.dg.com>
Date: 11 Dec 91 18:00:40 GMT
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I've seen nothing on the net regarding this, but I found this in the
Globe:
Without permission from the Boston Globe, 12/7, page 13:
Mystery object eludes astronomers
By David L. Chandler, Globe Staff
The unidentified object that hurtled past Earth before dawn on
Thursday remains a mystery, astronomers said yesterday, and it
apparently slipped by without them getting a good look.
A week ago, astronomers had decided that the tiny object,
which passed slightly farther away from Earth than the moon's distance
of 240,000 miles, was probably an asteroid -- a chunk of
interplanetary rock probably less than 30 feet across [BUT, read on!].
But observations on Monday by European astronomers working in
Chile showed dramatic variations in brightness which suggest an
irregularly shaped, tumbling object with great variations in its
surface reflectivity, much more so than expected for a natural object
like an asteroid, said Brian Marsden, an astronomer.
Marsden, director of the Cambridge-based International
Astronomical Union's Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams and Minor
Planet Center, said yesterday that the variation in brightness "means
we are dealing with some very peculiar object. I would say man-made.
I think it wold be hard to explain this kind of variation with a
natural object, even a small one."
But Marsden and others are still puzzling over what kind of
man-made object it is.
Marsden said two weeks ago that it was probably the leftover
Centaur rocket used in 1974 to launch a sun-observing satellite called
Helios. But more precise calculations of the object's orbit, based on
the latest observations, show that, traced backwards, it never quite
meets Earth, as it should if it had been launched from Earth.
There is a possible explaination for that descrepancy, Marsden
said: Centaur rockets sometimes contain leftover hydrogen fuel after
they reach orbit, and this fuel could continue to leak out, perhaps
for years. This could propel the rocket in unpredictable directions,
like air escaping from a balloon that send it careening aound a room.
During its closest approach to Earth on Thursday, the object
was too far south to be visible from anywhere in the northern
hemisphere. Astronomers at the European Southern Observatory in Chile
tried to get pictures of it shortly after its closest approach in
order to get more precise data on its exact path and to make further
measurements of its brightness variations.
But as of yesterday, they were unable to find any sign of the
object in their pictures.
Because of the difficulty of the observation and the faintness
of the object, astronomers Richard West and Oliver Hainaut at the
observatory in the Chilean Andes continued to examine their images
carefully yesterday.
These observations are essential to guarantee the success of a
planned radar observation of the object when it returns to visibility
in the northern hemisphere next week. A successful radar observations
"would clinch it" as to whether the object is natural or artificial,
Marsden said.
"I was hoping it would be natural," said Marsden, because that
would make it a very unusual type of asteroid and the smallest ever
detected, and therefore interesting to astronomers. But because of
the brightness changes seen this week, he is now "90 percent sure"
that it is artificial.
Because of the uncertain movements of a rocket leaking
leftover fuel, however, it may never be possible to identify it as a
specific rocket.
If it is artificial but not any known rocket, that might
explain the astronomers' inability to locate it in their pictures,
Marsden joked.
"Maybe that's why they couldn't be found last night," he said.
"Maybe they landed."
Tom
Article 17219 of sci.astro:
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From: paulc@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Paul Christensen X3073)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Wheres the Bolide?
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Date: 11 Feb 92 06:54:18 GMT
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Hey all!
I heard in Dec that there was a large (3mi diam) object coming toward
earth... Some guy from NASA was saying that it was about
a year away.. He called it something like Tutautus????
Anyone up on this stuff?
If so, How close will it get??? <shiver>
(Where's my ticket to MARS??)
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(1171) Sat 15 Feb 92 12:28p
By: Len Bucuvalas (408
To: All
Re: New Asteroid Coming Our Way ...
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From: lpb@STRATUS.SWDC.STRATUS.COM (Len Bucuvalas (408)559-5363)
Date: 14 Feb 92 23:06:31 GMT
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..or is it really an asteroid? Reference the file Something Wicked This Way
Comes.....
Len
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From: jscotti@lpl.arizona.edu (Jim Scotti x2717)
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space
Subject: Re: NEW UNUSUAL ASTEROID FOUND...
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.
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In article <1992Jan24.201444.21555@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
peter@arafel.space.ualberta.ca (Peter Brown) writes:
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>NEW OUTER SOLAR SYSTEM ASTEROID/COMET FOUND - DUNCAN STEEL, 1992 January 24th
>
>
>On January 1st an object presently designated SS078 (Spacewatch Survey
>object number 078) was discovered by Dr David Rabinowitz using the
>Spacewatch Camera at Kitt Peak, Arizona.
>
The object was discovered on January 9 and re-observed by Spacewatch
on January 10 and 13. Images were later found by Carolyn Shoemaker
made from Palomar on January 1. It has now been given the asteroidal
designation 1992 AD. We expect that more pre-discovery images from
opposition passages in the last 5-10 years may be forthcoming as the
orbit (and subsequent backwards search ephemerides) is improved. In
the weeks following the discovery of (2060) Chiron at the end of 1977,
images were found in previous years, for example on the Palomar Sky
Survey in the early 1950's & eventually as early as the 1880's! Chiron,
however, gets a bit brighter & does not travel as far from the sun
as 1992 AD and we don't expect images going back more than a few
years. 1992 AD is now approximately Visual magnitde 16.8. At the
time of the Palomar Sky Survey in the early 1950's, 1992 AD was near
aphelion and would have been fainter than V=22, below the plate limit.
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Jim Scotti
Spacewatch Project
{jscotti@lpl.arizona.edu}
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA
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