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(9719)  Sat 5 Jun 93  2:44a
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: Ed Dames - Dan Smith
St:
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Dear Folks,

This is a transcript of a telephone conversation that Dan Smith had with Ed
Dames quite a while back. Quite to the contrary of "Eschatology" being a "new
development", it appears to have been a topic quite some time now. I'm
providing it as background.

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        Telephone Conversation with Ed Dames

              12-3-91  11:15 to 12:10

A. This report is transcribed from some very rough notes.  It is biased toward
completeness rather than verbatim accuracy.  I am merely reconstructing my
general impression of the conversation.  Only the greatest uncertainties are
noted with question marks.

B. Ed has retired for some years from Army-Pentagon (DIA?) intelligence work.
He has gone commercial with his remote viewing work with PSI Tech. Six workers,
2 currently on sebatical for screwing up an assignment. Board of directors and
a "technical" review board that includes scientists, philosophers and media
types (e.g. BBC science editor).  Ed refers to himself as a "simple Christian
guy."  He and Ron [Pandolphi] both wore the "weird hats" with regard to their
resp. agencies.

C. Recent projects include viewing Iraqi military (nuclear) installations for
UN team, and helping Russians with tracing unusual object photographed on Mars
- Phobos probe. Proposal for crop circle RVing, and have done some already.
Circles are done by angel types.

D. In the past couple of weeks Ed has given several TV interviews for possible
later broadcast, including one for "48 Hours."  Would not mind my blabbing to
others or on computer ntwrks, but avoid using the terms "angels" or
"metaphysics" with any media types.  Would anybody else out there mind -
blabbing??

E. 60%(?) of their viewing work has involved UFO's.  RV's of many UFO events
are blocked by external agency, (cosmic censorship?).

F. UFO type viewing encounters 2 types of entities: aliens and angels. Aliens
are more physical with quasi-physical type craft.  They are in trouble and need
our resources, which they take, and if humans are involved they recieve mental
impressions to confuse what is really going on.  The angels are policing these
alien activities.  The angels technology is more concerned with the mental and
transcendental or metaphysical domains.  He suggests J Vallee's "Dimensions"
for a handle on the angels.  Ed seemed ammenable to the dualistic view of
angels and aliens as presented in the "Ra Material."  It is not clear to me
whether it was angels or aliens that are manipulating human consciousness with
regard to UFO contact?

G. Ed uses the terms ground zero or ground truth to refer to a spot in SW US
where much of their work is done.  The angels led them to this spot, indicating
that it would be a good place for contacting aliens, about 10 yrs(?) ago.
Various forms of contact then occurred.  High energy voltage - fire works,
lights near a mesa, etc(?).  Others cautioned danger with regard to first
contacts, but Ed damned the torpedoes - guardian angels(?).

H. We discussed eschatological implications at some length. His group gets
indications of unavoidable bad stuff in the next couple(?) of decades.
Deleterious climate changes, storms adversely effecting agriculture.  He also
foresees a quasi-public contact w/ UFO's near the ground zero site, w/in 1.5
yr.  It would be an ongoing contact, of a prophetic sort with both A&A's
involved.  His review comm. will work out possible coverage. He is not so
concerned about a global spiritual emergency, as about the
physical(meteorological?) emergencies.

I. Ingo Swann, his early mentor, is coming out with a book related to
eschatology.

J. He referred to the recent meeting that Maccabee attended, American Optical,
Sandia, McGarrity.  He said Sandia or Los Alamos might be best for a joint CC
project w/ Ron.  But no one at Pentagon.  The informal Pentgon/Industry UFO
group had reached a dead end about two years ago. Too much infighting, etc.

K. I volunteered to help out particularly with eschat. concerns and Ed
suggested there might be work with regard to the review comm.

L. Several times I asked him about resistance to his contacts and he expressed
very little concern.


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