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(4123) Sun 9 May 93 8:00p
By: Don Nellesen
To: All
Re: Please Read My Introduction (repost)
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From: donn@sempco.UUCP (Don Nellesen)
Date: 8 May 93 01:10:01 GMT
Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company
Message-ID: <donn.113b@sempco.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Hello 8^),
After reading "alt.alien.visitors" for about five weeks and
getting a feel for the group, I feel ready to make my first post to this
group. This also happens to be my first post period.
So first please allow me to introduce my self; and then I'll tell
you about my "sighting".
My name is Don Nellesen, I'm 36 and I reside in the county of St.
Louis, Missouri. I have no formal education beyond high school and,
judging by some of the post, I am sure to be a target for slamming by
those who seem to judge a post by its structure and not its content.
Straight up, I take this subject seriously and my reason for interacting
is to help me, and perhaps others, better understand what is real and
what is disinformation. I do not read tabloids, I do not jump to
conclusions, and I try to eliminate what something IS NOT before I make a
decision as to what something IS or could be.
I must say that posts from Kristen, and several others like her
with thought provoking and seemingly honest comments, give me the feeling
that I can relate my story and that some will take it as it is presented,
with respect and wonderment of things we may not fully understand and
maybe even some may have some thoughts as to what I saw.
(for all the world to see, I swear on everything sacred to me that
the following is a true account)
At the time I worked for a national department store located near
Page Ave. and rt.725. My job was to collect the shopping carts from the
parking lot. I am not certain of the date, but it had to be sometime
between Thanksgiving and Christmas of 1974 because we were on extended
hours, and the time was about 10:30 or 11:00 pm. (At this point you may
say "if this was such an important event in your life, why aren't you
sure of the date?", well, because for more than a decade I tried to put it
out of my mind because of ridicule I received just moments after the
fact, but I can tell you that hardly a day has gone by that I haven't
thought about it, if only for a moment.
The lot was nearly empty and inside the store preparations were
underway to close. I was near the top of the lot where we had a large
storage building with five or six garage type doors along its front.
Behind that was an old golf course that had been closed for years and
therefore there was NEVER any activity up there. Never.
I became aware of a light suddenly shinning from up on the golf
course. I could not see the source of the light because the storage
building blocked my view, but I could tell that what ever it was was
moving by the way the casted shadows moved. I thought to my self "odd...
is that a car driving up there... I don't think so 'cause the motion of
the light is too steady". The golf course was run-a-muck with untended
growth, not tall trees, but just a field left to grow wild. There was
however a tall tree line 600-700 yards away from the stores property line.
I stood there watching for what ever it was to move into sight,
and slowly but steadily it came into view moving from my left to my
right. It was a ball of light, about the color of an incandesant light
bulb only a bit whiter; and when I say ball I mean a 3 dimensional object
in the form of a sphere, and it was as far as I could tell a perfect, no
flaws apparent, very vivid, very well focused, sharp edged sphere. The
color was uniform through out its surface. You know how when you look at
an incandesant light bulb you can see the filament burning insde of the
clear or frosted glass? Well it was nohing like that. The light was even
through out, almost as though it WAS light.
It was located at most 100 yards away from me ( I know this
because the light emitting from it shown down on the ground, so I had two
reference points, it and the ground. If I hold my thumb and forefinger
out at arms length (say roughly around 26" from my pupil) to measure its
diameter it comes to about 2.5"in diameter, now if I extend that 26" out
to 100 yards then the 2.5" becomes roughly to be 30 feet. The object was
about one half of its diameter above the ground and moving at about 5mph
accross my field of view. It moved in an appearant straight line and did
not change its altitude in the slightest though the ground did slope away
from it at a rate of about one foot in ten all the way to Page Ave. The
object made no sound, it did not change in intensity, there were no
sparks, no fumes, no smoke, no windows, no antenna, no landing gear,
nothing to relate it to the reality of it being there and moving with
what can only be described as a determined course.
I stood there absolutely dumbfounded, I didn't have the slightest
bit af fear, I was to busy taking it all in. Every fiber of my being told
me that what I was witnessing COULD NOT BE HAPPENING. I spent the entire
time determining what it was not, and believe it or not I wanted it to be
something familure, but it was not.
1. it was NOT an airplane
2. it was NOT a balloon
3. it was NOT a helicopter
a) if it was a helicopter with a spotlight pointed at me,
then they would have had to be pointing the light directly
at me and continued to point it at me until it went out of
sight because the light never became an elipse.it
maintained its circular (actually spherical) shape for the
entire observation; plus the light again shown on the
ground below.
4. it was Not burning swamp gas
a) it would seem to me that if it were a gas then it would
have been some irregular ever changing shape as it would
be unconfined.
5. it was NOT Venus, a meteor, or a re-entry
a) remember its 100 yards away from me and there are tall
trees several hundred yards behind it.
6. I don't think it was "Balled Lightning" what ever that is. I
dont know if it can exist on a cool, clear, and calm
winter night; but it just seems as if it could not have a
straight, slow, silent path all without a percievable
change in color or intensity.
7. It was NOT built by McDonnell Douglas. why would you build
something like that (if you could) and test it on a golf
course in St. Louis County. I mean come on.
I observed the object for about 45 seconds, it felt longer sort
of like when you see an automobile accident happening, time seems to slow
down as your brain seems to be going into warp, you know what I mean?
Attached to the department store is a grocery store and next to
it is where the transformers are located. Well when the object got even
with the transformers...Wooosh... all of the lights in the store and all
of the parking lot lights went out; a very few seconds (4 maybe 5) all of
the store lights came back on and the parking lot lights began to fire up
again. The light continued until I just couldn't see it any longer from
my line of sight. It went over Page right near where 725 ended. Somebody
else had to see it.
I ran into the store and exclaimed "I know what made the lights
go out, I know what made the lights go out!!!" but when I told them of
this spectacular thing that just happened, well I was quickly branded a
quite hysterical loon. and let me tell you I was quite excited. I am not
a loon. It happened exactly like I state here. It was reality. It was
real, and I will never forget one moment of it until my dying day.
Any questions or speculations are more than welcomed either
publicly or you may E-Mail me if you would rather.Please no flames I will
ignore them as I now ignore people who feel it is best to ridicule rather
than consider the possibility of something existing beyond their
understanding. Close friends know this story, and knowing the type of
person I am, I know they believe me.
What do I think it was, well in my mind it was under control; by
who, I do not know; E.T. ,,, could be...I tend to lean that way. Was it a
religious experience...could be... but what was the point... I mean it
seems if God or whatever allowed me to be witness to him/her/whatever, I
dont think he/she/it would have left any doubt in my mind.
Thanks for the outlet and there is more to this story but, it can
wait for another time, and I hope you won't run me from the group. 8^)
****DON****
***********Internet:sempco!donn@wupost.wustl.edu(Don Nellesen)************
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(4124) Sun 9 May 93 8:00p
By: Don Nellesen
To: All
Re: Please Read My Intro ( Part Ii )
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From: donn@sempco.UUCP (Don Nellesen)
Date: 8 May 93 01:25:20 GMT
Organization: Sim's Electronic Musicians' Publishing Company
Message-ID: <donn.113i@sempco.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Introduction Part II
Hello Again 8^),
I have received five comments on my post thus far, three public and
two private. Four responses were positive but, one that was private
mentioned that a while back someone made a "serious post on the subject,
and later came back to say it was a sociology experiment to see how people
buy this "stuff".
It is unfortunate that this type of disinformation and posts quoted
from tabloids get dumped out here and ruins any hope of serious scrutiny
and open minded exchange of ideas and maybe even sollutions to many
puzzles. I challange you all to be honest, open, and constructive; many
seem to be; many are obviously not. With a little time and COopperation I
think WE CAN make a difference. I mean if I understand this "INTERNET"
bit, this stuff goes around the world and through major universities, with
that much potential networking We should be able to shake things up a bit.
Please, lets try. Okay enough soap box.
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For just about ten years I didn't talk much about my sighting of
the ball of light up in the golf course ( refer to "Please Read My
Introduction ). Oh, I told my Mom and Dad and a friend or two along the
way, and of course later on my wife back when we dated. That was good for
a while but I still felt that I needed answers. I wanted to tell my story
to anyone I thought might take me seriously; I wanted to find
somebody, anybody else who might have seen the same thing I did.
I thought about having some fliers printed and distribute them
through out the nearby neighborhoods, but I was afraid that would bring
more harm than good; I was better off talking to one person at a time.
In my current job I repair the Heating and Air Conditioning for 18
publicly funded and patronized facilities. I travel the county from end to
end, top to bottom and, over the past six years have developed many solid
relationships with my coworkers. I began relating my story and, one day
one of our delivery drivers said "you know I remember hearing a story
several years back about a police officer in the city of ________ (I hope
you understand that I am not naming names) who saw what sounds to me like
the same thing as you describe."
Man I felt renewed. After, at that time, what was 16 years I had
new hope of talking to a co-witness!!! I continued talking and began a
methodical search of as much material as my local library system could
provide, which to my suprise was very extensive and including microfilm of
newspapers form the past.
Next door to one of our facilities is the city hall for a village
near where I had my sighting. I spoke to the Chief off and on for a few
years, and one day I thought "what the hell, my house is paid for, my wife
will have a place to live if they put me away." So I told him everything,
I sounded very nervous, but he stood there listening without comment until
I finished the story; He then replied with a srtraight face "That sounds
exactly like what Butch Brown (not his real name) saw." He continued to
tell me that Butch was a retired police officer for the city in which I
had my sighting.
I was beside myself as the rest of the day drug on, I could hardly
wait to get home and call Butch. Hundreds of senerios played through my
mind as to how the conversation may go. At worst he would deny it and hang
up on me, at best maybe it would do us both some good to know someone else
knows the story was true without any skeptisism.
I got home and dialed still not knowing how to start, I just hoped
he would answer, of course his wife answered, I asked to speek to mister
Brown please. "WHAT DO YOU WANT" she said." Well...I...uh...I understand
that he and I may have been witness to a common event about 18 years ago
and..." " WHAT EVENT" she demanded. Oh man, I'm this close after all this
time and I can't get past the sentry, "Uh... well... I saw something in
the air above the golf course on Page..." "Just a Minute" she snaps and
then I hear her call out to Butch. "Dear somebody on the phone wants to
talk to you about flying saucers." "NO...aw jeez thats not what I said,
aw sh__," I wanted to hang up, but in a moment he came to the phone. I
introduced myself and after a short while I got in to the story.
He did not respond at all and I began to wonder if he fell asleep, so mid way
through the story I stopped and asked, " does what I have said so far
sound like the same thing you saw?" After a long pause he said
"well...yes..., but you must be carefull when dealing with such things as
this." " Does he know something I dont" I wondered. "Excuse me?" I said.
He said "You should not question such matters and you should just except
it for what it was." "Do you KNOW what it was?" I asked. "Of course" he
said " I immediately recognized it as the DEVIL."
"The Devil??? Oh man this guy has lost it" I thought. "What makes
you think it was the Devil? I studied that thing everywhich way I could
and the thought of the Devil NEVER entered my mind. If you are thinking
that way then why could it not have been God?" He said "Because the Devil
has the power to become an Angel of Light and God has revealed him self to
man for the last time... further more I suggest that you go to a priest
and have him quote scripture to you until such time as you become
convinced of the same...
I hung up...DAMN...DAMN... I didn't want him to necesarily say
that it was E.T. I just wanted to have a rational conversation with him.
And I refuse to be brain washed. All in all I felt exhausted and alone
again. It was a long trip for NOTHING. But atleast I had the foresight to
record the conversation.
So thats my story, and thats why I am here, I still feel as though
I need to find people who can relate. It doesn't go away.
Can you relate.
Thank you all very much 8^)
****DON****
The oppinions expressed are mine and not that of my host BBS
Again, any comments will be welcomed.
***********Internet:sempco!donn@wupost.wustl.edu(Don Nellesen)************
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* have; as is your right to disagree. | " -__O__- *
* A Mind Is A Terible Thing To Chaste! | * * - _/ = \_ *
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