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(2271)  Thu 30 Apr 92 12:02p
By: Travis R. Stone
To: All
Re: Re: Science And Ufos..proof Requested
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From: STONE@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Travis R. Stone)
Date: 29 Apr 92 21:41:58 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Message-ID: <1992Apr29.214158.888@news.unomaha.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors


Proof?

There isn't a single shred of evidence that life exists anywhere
else but on Earth; please do not rehash "probability" arguments
to the contrary because arguing probabilities is not evidence.
The above assertion is NOT a probability argument because it states
a conclusion borne of direct observation---we see no EBEs, hence there
are no EBEs (and apparently there is no experiment we can perform to
produce them.) If there WERE ETs out there, we should have made clear
contact with them by now; since we haven't, there aren't.  'Tis the
person who claims that there ARE who is stuck with providing evidence
to the contrary.

Incidentally, ladies and gentlemen, I personally feel that there
most certainly IS intelligent life out in the cosmos (other than
here at home); whether or not they're coming here in metal ships
to butcher our cattle and abduct our women is another kettle of
fish altogether.  THIS I have doubts about.

T.R. Stone
University of Nebraska-Omaha
Home of the Toughest Organic Chemistry Instructors in the Galaxy
(Even if there ARE others out there.)

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(2268)  Thu 30 Apr 92 12:01p
By: Bill Peterson
To: All
Re: Science And Ufo's
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From: billp@mozart.amd.com (Bill Peterson)
Date: 29 Apr 92 17:11:25 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <1992Apr29.171125.5315@dvorak.amd.com>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors


        It occurred to me that what science basically does when faced
with the unknown is :
    1) admit it doesn't know
    2) observe the behaviour
    3) speculate about causes
    4) formulate a theory to explain the behaviour
    5) it cannot PROVE the theory totally, science instead looks for
        behaviour that doesn't fit the theory.
    6) modify the theory to account for new data or unexplained data

        As a theory withstands tests of it's capability to explain
the observed behaviour, it becomes stronger. Eventually it is assumed
to be true. As in Newton's laws. As our instrumentation gets more
discriminating, experiments show errors in the theory, or confirm
it.

        As for UFOs, it seems much easier to me to go ahead and posit
the existence of ET. This handily explains almost all of the observed
behaviour. Our own limited knowledge (knowledge is always limited)
concludes that other planets are highly likely. Life abounds on Earth
in all kinds of weird places. There is no real reason NOT to assume ET
out there somewhere.
        I am afraid that to a visitor we would look like animals.
Similar to what we think of monkeys or cows. We are obviously violent
and selfish, willing to destroy whole countries with nuclear weapons.
There is no central contact point for aliens to contact. Someone might
try to attack them. It is no wonder that ETs might not want to get too
close. We stink.
        All through recorded time, man has had a relationship with
"other" intellegences. Elves, gods, etc. It is so much simpler to
explain all of this (and UFOs) with the ET hypothesis.  The amount of
anecdotal evidence is overwhelming. Some explanation is required._

        I challenge you skeptics out there to come up with one shred
of proof AGAINST the ET theory.

        Bill Peterson
--
        Howdy Pardner! Let's chew the fat!
        Disclaimer : my thoughts are not my own. :-X

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