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(2842)  Mon 2 Dec 91 12:27p
By: Mark S Gilstrap
To: All
Re: Re: Somthing Heading This Way.
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From: anachem@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (mark s gilstrap)
Date: 2 Dec 91 15:16:22 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
Message-ID: <1991Dec2.151622.20112@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors

In article <422800007@peg> mcollinson@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>
>/* Written  6:49 am  Nov 29, 1991 by E59401 in peg:sci.astro */
>/* ---------- "Unknown object ?" ---------- */
>
> Nowadays (27/11/91) on newspaper I've read that an unknown object is
>approaching to the Earth. And it was written that this object was obseved
>by NASA. I just want to know that this news is true or not ?

        I've heard Evangelical christians (esp TeeVee variety) refer
        to an approaching object more than a few times. I think that
        they probably believe it is Christ zooming in from heaven, (and,
        if a reality at all, not AntiChrist who will come in wonders
        and aerial illusions). Of course this object is not a dark
        asteroid, but lightbearing or it wouldn't have "been seen" by
        astronomers (if it has been?).

        Perhaps its time to repost the fact (and the article which was
        the 4th post on this group) that the aerial realm is the place
        of activity of the fallen Lucifer (the light bearer) and those
        angels who fell with him (demons). Their tools are falsehood
        and illusion. The Fathers of the early Christian Church warned
        that it was not a good idea to look often or with imaginary
        wondering at the heavens, as it is possible to become victim to
        the lying wonders of the aerial beings.

        UFOs are real phenomena. But they are a phenomena of the
        creation of the illusory powers of the father of lies. Before
        the space age, UFOs were not spacecraft - this is a product of
        the paradigm of our age. The demonic beings (who occupy the
        UFOs) are however very similar to the demonic archetypes of the
        past. The effects on people are good evidence of the nature of
        these beings.

        For your own sakes, give up your fantasies and believe that
        these manifestations are nothing new, but simply a continuation
        of the demonic manifestations which were easily understood by
        our forebears who had a simple "unsophisticated" belief in evil.

        That these manifestations are increasing in frequency is
        a sign of our times and the foolishness of men who reject the
        wisdom of the past.

        The article "UFOs, a Shattering Assault" is available on
        request. See also a very lengthy discussion of the history and
        categorization of CEs in "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the
        Future".

        Based on what I have been able to gather, this object that is
        approaching should arrive on about Christmas 1992. The great
        "Peace on Earth" accompanying this advent will cause most of you
        to worship the being that arrives.

        I don't at all recommend drugs!, but I think my experience in
        the 60s with hallucinogens gives me a much better understanding
        of the reality of illusions, their power, their effects, and the
        shaping of new realities for the participant. Illusion is (in a
        limited sense) reality. It is the reality of delusion, and we
        all suffer its influence over us by the fallen nature of our very
        existance. Knowing this, it is easier to make sense of UFOs and
        also to not fall victim to the much more seductive illusions to
        come.


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(3095)  Wed 4 Dec 91  6:02p
By: Mark S Gilstrap
To: All
Re: Re:   Somthing Heading This Way.
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From: anachem@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (mark s gilstrap)
Date: 4 Dec 91 14:49:35 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
Message-ID: <1991Dec4.144935.8140@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors

In article <jms.05zf@vanth.UUCP> jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
>
>OK, I goofed (a little.)  I read 1992 as 1991, and I inferred Christ
>instead of Antichrist.  It doesn't blow my argument though.  Give me proof
>that the asteroid is anything but an asteroid, and that I should follow
>anything but my own free will.
>

        I suppose I wasn't exactly clear in my post - based on the
        misunderstandings (and some e-mail) I've seen posted.

        I can't answer your questions because I don't believe the
        TV evangeligals who are spouting this stuff. I am just a
        poor unfortunate who relishes watching the absurdities of
        Hal Lindsey's prophecies. It' snot only entertaining to me,
        but it is educational as well. I thought that maybe you
        folks would like the benefit of what I had gleaned from the
        tube.

        THEY (not me) say that there is something (a light) headed
        this way from far off (beyond the range of solar light re-
        flection). THEY seem to think that it is a harbinger of
        either the return of Christ, or of the Antichrist. I (me),
        I say that whomever it is (if I thought it were real), they,
        and by virtue of the psychological bent displayed here, many
        of you, would worship any advanced intelligence that appeared
        in wonders from the sky.

        I belong to a much older Christian Church than the ones you all
        have attacked (rightly so) because of its abuses. I do not
        take your attacks personally because I know that my Church has
        not fallen prey to the western rationalizations and errors which
        you oppose. In your western materialism however, you have failed
        to even consider the spiritual truths of the advice of the early
        fathers of the Church wrt the spiritual beings (not the material
        order of the solar system, etc...) that occupy the aerial realm.

        I see no difference between the apocalyptic visions of the
        Evangelicals and the chiliastic expressions made by many of the
        proponents of UFOs as real material phenomena. I put both
        groups in the same category - deluded. I have as support for
        my view the collective wisdom of 'true' christian experiences -
        manyof which exactly parallel the UFO-esque appearances, but are
        interpreted not as little men from space (or as leprechauns or
        nature sprites or in Germany as "smurfs" or ......) but as man-
        ifestations of demons. You may, and likely do, disagree. You may
        even say I am the one deluded, as one e-mail did, but I can read
        in the lives of saints from the earliest times about your
        "aliens" and see that for thousands of years there is self-
        consistency in the understandings of these beings. Your
        imaginings and material explanations do not have the same
        strength to me. Please allow me to have (and post) ideas con-
        trary to yours without being attacked.

        Given the limited number of pigeon-holes you all seem to be
        working with, I guess I'm not surprised which one you put me
        in. If you are going to sort people thusly, at least get more
        pigeon-holes - its a big world out there.

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