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(4367)  Thu 14 Jan 93  8:57p
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: Liufon, Part 1
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 * Forwarded from "MUFONET"
 * Originally by John Komar
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 14 Jan 1993, 21:51

I've recently received the following from Mike Christol, UFO Investigator and
MufoNet-BBS Network SysOp:

The following is the latest information release from John Ford, Chairman of
Long Island UFO Network, i.e. LIUFON, regarding the reported crash of an
unidentified object in South Haven Park, ajoining North Shirley, Long
Island.  Just to recap, the object allegedly went down on Nov. 24, 1992 at
7:15 pm. It was witnessed by a gentleman who saw the object fly along side
of his car at about 50 ft. above the ground.  The object suddenly sped up,
and made a right angle turn in front of him, crossing Sunrise Highway and
impacting in the park.  Now for the update which I received from John on
Saturday, Jan. 9, 1993 at 10:30 PM CST.

"The Long Island UFO Network conducted an investigation along the area
known as Gerard Rd., in Yaphank (L.I.), NY.   This area borders the western
side of South Haven Park.  The Long Island UFO Network ascertained from
several residents in the area:
    (1) A female witness whose identity is confidential and known to our
    board of directors, that informed us that on the night of the
    UFO crash on November 24, 1992, that she was stopped at the nter-
    section of Gerard and Victory Bvlds..  While proceeding along in an
    easterly direction on Victory Blvd, due to the presence of a Suffolk
    County Police roadblock, was offered the explaination that there had
    been an accident in the park and the park was closed.  She subsequently
    came back from her shopping trip and attempted to travel north on
    William Ford Parkway and make a left hand turn onto Victory Blvd.,
    and found that Victory Blvd. was blocked at the interseciton  of
    William Ford Parkway.  She had to travel North and take the Long Island
    Expressway over to exit 66 and then come down Gerard Rd. to get back
    to her house, over 20 minute delay in her course of travel.
    (2) LIUFON has ascertained from a teenage witness that on the day after
    the UFO crash he and a group of friends were denied access to the park
    by Suffolk County Police, prohibiting them from riding their bicycles
    in the park due to the presence of a so called accident on the park
    grounds.  No further explaination was offered by the police officers
    at the gate, the park was closed.
    (3) The Long Island UFO Network has ascertained from another 16 yr old
    witness, living on Gerard Ave., that he knows of two close personal
    friends he goes to school with, who were traveling west bound on
    Sunrise Hwy. the night of the incident and saw the object impact in the
    park!  We are now conducting an attempt to contact those two additional
    witnesses.
    (4) LIUFON has ascertained from additional witnesses in the area of
    Gerard Ave., bizarre electormagnetic pulse effects to wit digital clock
    readouts losing control as to the exact time and having to be reset
    constantly two to three days after the incident.  VCRs, wiping out
    video tapes.  Power surges in the power lines. There was also a black
    out for one hour in the area of Gerard Ave. the night of the occurance.
    Telephones ringing with nobody at the other end, and also ringing with
    the recievers off the hook.
    (5) On the night of Tuesday, Nov. 29, 1992, the Reverend K.S (address
    and telephone number given.  It can be obtained from me directly at
    (502) 683-6811).  reported at 7:38 PM that evening, his Mercury
    Marqui, a 1990 Mercury Marqui sadan, burst into flames in his driveway
    while the car was trying to start itself.  Yaphank fire department was
    called and so was the Suffolk County Police.  The Revrend was under the
    impression that it was arson.  The Suffolk County Police and the
    Yaphank fire Marshall took it down as an electircal fire.  We are
    rather suspicious of this report since it indicates that there may have
    been latent electormagnetic pulse effect damage to the electronic
    ignition or car's computer, causing it to short out and also to try and
    start itself.  We've also gotten reports too in that area of frequent
    helicopter overflights of unmarked helicopters, days after the UFO
    incident in the park.  We are also getting reports in, we have talked
    to a gentleman tonight, a 17 year old gentleman, by the name of Mike
    P., of Yaphank, (address and phone number given.  I have both), who has
    agreed to come forward with full public disclosure.  At 7:00 PM on the
    night of Nov. 23, 1992, 24 hours before the UFO incident over South
    Haven Park, the witness reports a formation of four very bright white
    lights doing a triangular movement over the park at a high altitude.
    No visible structure behind the lights, no engine sounds as the objects
    passed the witness while parked in his car on Gerard Road.  Subject
    will talk to news media, identity not confidential, going for full
    public disclosure.  At 2:15 PM this afternoon (Saturday, Jan 9), the
    Long Island UFO Investigative team, composed of John Ford, LIUFON
    members, Brian Levins, and Andrew Cerceoni (sp?), were stopped and
    detained by the Suffolk County Police, police car # 522; Police
    officers refused to identify themselves.  We were detained for
    questioning concerning the distribution of fliers in the area of Gerard
    Ave., concerning the UFO incident in South Haven Park on Nov. 24, 1992.
    Todays incident involved intimidation and threats made by the Suffolk
    County Police in an effort to stop us from distributing literature
    concerning the incident. The officer told us point blank, he said, `I'm
    here because you people are handing out this garbage.  Because you're
    scaring people and causing a panic.' The police said if we continued to
    do so they would be back to harrass us.  The incident is reported on
    Suffolk County Police blotter number 93-13373 at the Suffolk County
    Police Headquarters at Yaphank New York. One police officers shield
    number is 3453, of the Suffolk County police, fifth pricinct.  The
    Officer refused to identify himself, but he was in car number 522.  The
    incident was photographed by LIUFON investigators. Government
    intimidation and threats, as of now we do plan to continue our
    investigations.  We do intend to continue it, we do intend to take
    legal action.  We will be in contact with the ACLU in the next 24 hours
    and we do intend a letter going to the police Commisioner and also
    notification to the news media concerning this threat.  I would like
    letters of protest from investigators/researchers all across the
    country to be sent to the:
                                Police Commisioner
                                % the Suffolk County Police Dept,
                                Yaphank Ave.
                                Yaphank, New York 11980

    protesting the harrassment of the LIUFON investigative teams attempt to
    investigate the incident in South Haven Park.  Refer to:
                                Police Report Number 93-13373
                                Jan. 9, 1993 involving car number 522
                                and police officer shield number 3453.

    As of Jan. 9, 1993, LIUFON has marked its investigative folder on the
    South Haven Park case, no longer as a suspected UFO Crash, but as a
    confirmed UFO incident!
    After this incident, LIUFON was informed by the mother of Mike P.,
    that after they harrassed us, they were going back, stoping and
    questioning the people that we had talked to."

                        John Ford, Chairman - LIUFON
          -------------------------------------------------------
    We consider this a most URGENT request and ask each of you reading this
    message to pen a letter to the above address and voice your displeasure
    with the treatment of fellow investigators.  We feel the public has a
    right to know.  This may be the opportunity we have all been looking
    for. Don't let this opportunity to let your voice be heard pass you by.

    Mike

Continued.....

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(4368)  Thu 14 Jan 93  8:57p
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: Liufon, Part 2/3
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 * Forwarded from "MUFONET"
 * Originally by John Komar
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 14 Jan 1993, 21:51

The following is the latest information release from John Ford, Chairman of
Long Island UFO Network, i.e. LIUFON, regarding the reported crash of an
unidentified object in South Haven Park, ajoining North Shirley, Long
Island.  Just to recap, the object allegedly went down on Nov. 24, 1992 at
7:15 pm. It was witnessed by a gentleman who saw the object fly along side
of his car at about 50 ft. above the ground.  The object suddenly sped up,
and made a right angle turn in front of him, crossing Sunrise Highway and
impacting in the park.  Now for the update which I received from John on
Saturday, Jan. 9, 1993 at 10:30 PM CST.

"The Long Island UFO Network conducted an investigation along the area
known as Gerard Rd., in Yaphank (L.I.), NY.   This area borders the western
side of South Haven Park.  The Long Island UFO Network ascertained from
several residents in the area:
    (1) A female witness whose identity is confidential and known to our
    board of directors, that informed us that on the night of the
    UFO crash on November 24, 1992, that she was stopped at the nter-
    section of Gerard and Victory Bvlds..  While proceeding along in an
    easterly direction on Victory Blvd, due to the presence of a Suffolk
    County Police roadblock, was offered the explaination that there had
    been an accident in the park and the park was closed.  She subsequently
    came back from her shopping trip and attempted to travel north on
    William Ford Parkway and make a left hand turn onto Victory Blvd.,
    and found that Victory Blvd. was blocked at the interseciton  of
    William Ford Parkway.  She had to travel North and take the Long Island
    Expressway over to exit 66 and then come down Gerard Rd. to get back
    to her house, over 20 minute delay in her course of travel.
    (2) LIUFON has ascertained from a teenage witness that on the day after
    the UFO crash he and a group of friends were denied access to the park
    by Suffolk County Police, prohibiting them from riding their bicycles
    in the park due to the presence of a so called accident on the park
    grounds.  No further explaination was offered by the police officers
    at the gate, the park was closed.
    (3) The Long Island UFO Network has ascertained from another 16 yr old
    witness, living on Gerard Ave., that he knows of two close personal
    friends he goes to school with, who were traveling west bound on
    Sunrise Hwy. the night of the incident and saw the object impact in the
    park!  We are now conducting an attempt to contact those two additional
    witnesses.
    (4) LIUFON has ascertained from additional witnesses in the area of
    Gerard Ave., bizarre electormagnetic pulse effects to wit digital clock
    readouts losing control as to the exact time and having to be reset
    constantly two to three days after the incident.  VCRs, wiping out
    video tapes.  Power surges in the power lines. There was also a black
    out for one hour in the area of Gerard Ave. the night of the occurance.
    Telephones ringing with nobody at the other end, and also ringing with
    the recievers off the hook.

Continued.....

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(4369)  Thu 14 Jan 93  8:58p
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: Liufon, Part 3/3
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 * Forwarded from "MUFONET"
 * Originally by John Komar
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 14 Jan 1993, 21:52

    (5) On the night of Tuesday, Nov. 29, 1992, the Reverend K.S (address
    and telephone number given.  It can be obtained from me directly at
    (502) 683-6811).  reported at 7:38 PM that evening, his Mercury
    Marqui, a 1990 Mercury Marqui sadan, burst into flames in his driveway
    while the car was trying to start itself.  Yaphank fire department was
    called and so was the Suffolk County Police.  The Revrend was under the
    impression that it was arson.  The Suffolk County Police and the
    Yaphank fire Marshall took it down as an electircal fire.  We are
    rather suspicious of this report since it indicates that there may have
    been latent electormagnetic pulse effect damage to the electronic
    ignition or car's computer, causing it to short out and also to try and
    start itself.  We've also gotten reports too in that area of frequent
    helicopter overflights of unmarked helicopters, days after the UFO
    incident in the park.  We are also getting reports in, we have talked
    to a gentleman tonight, a 17 year old gentleman, by the name of Mike
    P., of Yaphank, (address and phone number given.  I have both), who has
    agreed to come forward with full public disclosure.  At 7:00 PM on the
    night of Nov. 23, 1992, 24 hours before the UFO incident over South
    Haven Park, the witness reports a formation of four very bright white
    lights doing a triangular movement over the park at a high altitude.
    No visible structure behind the lights, no engine sounds as the objects
    passed the witness while parked in his car on Gerard Road.  Subject
    will talk to news media, identity not confidential, going for full
    public disclosure.  At 2:15 PM this afternoon (Saturday, Jan 9), the
    Long Island UFO Investigative team, composed of John Ford, LIUFON
    members, Brian Levins, and Andrew Cerceoni (sp?), were stopped and
    detained by the Suffolk County Police, police car # 522; Police
    officers refused to identify themselves.  We were detained for
    questioning concerning the distribution of fliers in the area of Gerard
    Ave., concerning the UFO incident in South Haven Park on Nov. 24, 1992.
    Todays incident involved intimidation and threats made by the Suffolk
    County Police in an effort to stop us from distributing literature
    concerning the incident. The officer told us point blank, he said, `I'm
    here because you people are handing out this garbage.  Because you're
    scaring people and causing a panic.' The police said if we continued to
    do so they would be back to harrass us.  The incident is reported on
    Suffolk County Police blotter number 93-13373 at the Suffolk County
    Police Headquarters at Yaphank New York. One police officers shield
    number is 3453, of the Suffolk County police, fifth pricinct.  The
    Officer refused to identify himself, but he was in car number 522.  The
    incident was photographed by LIUFON investigators. Government
    intimidation and threats, as of now we do plan to continue our
    investigations.  We do intend to continue it, we do intend to take
    legal action.  We will be in contact with the ACLU in the next 24 hours
    and we do intend a letter going to the police Commisioner and also
    notification to the news media concerning this threat.  I would like
    letters of protest from investigators/researchers all across the
    country to be sent to the:
                                Police Commisioner
                                % the Suffolk County Police Dept,
                                Yaphank Ave.
                                Yaphank, New York 11980

    protesting the harrassment of the LIUFON investigative teams attempt to
    investigate the incident in South Haven Park.  Refer to:
                                Police Report Number 93-13373
                                Jan. 9, 1993 involving car number 522
                                and police officer shield number 3453.

    As of Jan. 9, 1993, LIUFON has marked its investigative folder on the
    South Haven Park case, no longer as a suspected UFO Crash, but as a
    confirmed UFO incident!
    After this incident, LIUFON was informed by the mother of Mike P.,
    that after they harrassed us, they were going back, stoping and
    questioning the people that we had talked to."

                        John Ford, Chairman - LIUFON
          -------------------------------------------------------
    We consider this a most URGENT request and ask each of you reading this
    message to pen a letter to the above address and voice your displeasure
    with the treatment of fellow investigators.  We feel the public has a
    right to know.  This may be the opportunity we have all been looking
    for. Don't let this opportunity to let your voice be heard pass you by.

    Mike

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(6214)  Fri 29 Jan 93  8:12p
By: Don Allen
To: All
Re: Liufon Flyer
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 * Forwarded from "MUFONET"
 * Originally by John Komar
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 29 Jan 1993, 16:09

Thsi si the wording on the flyer LIUFON has been passing out re the supposed
crashed saucer on Long Island, New York:


Message number 4405 in "SPAC_LINK"
Date: 01-28-93  22:31
From: Mike Christol
To:   John Komar
Subj: LIUFON

John, I have posted a message in Space_Link regarding the fliers
which John Ford and LIUFON are handing out in New York.

REgards, Mike


Message number 4404 in "SPAC_LINK"
Date: 01-28-93  22:29
From: Mike Christol
To:   All
Subj: LIUFON



                              U.F.O.'S



            THERE HAS BEEN A U.F.O. INCIDENT IN YOUR AREA!


        The Long Island U.F.O. Network, a non profit research
organization that investigates the U.F.O. Phenomenon, is
conducting an investigation into an alleged UFO Incident which
occurred in South Haven Park on the night of November 24, 1992
at 7:12 P.M..  From what several eyewitness motorists who were
on Sunrise Highway have informed our organization, it appears
an ojbect may have either landed or crashed in the environs
of the Park.  Reports of loud rumbling sounds, strange light
phenomenon and a subsequent fire were reported immediately after
the occurrence by eyewitness testimony.  In addition, reports
of the area near the park being sealed off by military personnel
with roadblocks detouring traffic around the neighborhood that
night have surfaced.  The presence of Suffolk County Police were
also observed for several days after the event manning roadblocks
in the area.
        If you or anybody that you may know have information
concerning this event that could assist The Long Island U.F.O.
Network Inc. in ascertaining the truth of the nature of this
event, please contact our organization.  Upon your request your
identity will be kept strictly confidential.


For Further information contact:


               The Long Island U.F.O. Network Inc.
                          P.O. Box 1692
                   Riverhead, New York, 11901

                            Or Call:

                         The U.F.O. Hotline:
                           (516) 286 - 3212



                             L.I.U.F.O.N.


       -------------------------------------------------------

What you have just read is a copy, word for word, of the flier
Long Island UFO Network, and John Ford is handing out to the people
in Suffolk County, near South Haven Park.

Now that you have read it, it is up to you to persue the information
further.  You now have access to the Hot Line phone number, which
you are welcome to call, yourself.

I have reported the case as it has come to me thus far and I will
continue to update you as the information becomes available.
Remember, John Ford will be DR. Robert Barry's guest again this
week on E.T. Monitor, which will air at Midnight Eastern time
on Saturday night out of Red Lion, Pennsylvania, Channel 49,
or on Galexy 3, Transponder 1, 6.80 mhz. audio., if you have
a satellite dish.

If any of you wish to have a copy of the video tape, or an
audio tape of the program, let me know and we can work something
out.  Since John Ford will be calling by phone, an audio tape
will be just as informative.

REgards, Mike

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